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any teacher/parents out there.....I am, and need help

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iamworkingonit · 07/05/2017 06:42

My son is in year 2 and I teach year 2 at two different schools.. I am thus aware of the expectations, stress/workload of teachers, childrens' personalities and all the myriad of factors which impact on a child's happiness and progress at school.
My son regularly brings home his school books and shares his work with me. That is part of the school's homework programme and one which I think is great.I can see from his work and my experience in teaching that he is not up to the expected level for a year 2 child in his reading, writing and maths.
He is not drastically below what is expected in maths and reading but he is struggling with his writing.
My concern is that there seems to be insufficient support and guidance on how to improve the quality of his writing. For example when a child is writing a recount (where I teach) they would be given a simple checklist to ensure the child is aware of what they need to do pupil are encouraged to refer to the checklist as they write.There is no evidence of this sort of support in my son's book. The odd spelling mistake (basic words ....put, like) is corrected but there is no follow up with him writing the word a few times and checking it is spelt correctly in lessons that follow. My son is quite articulate and has a good vocabulary and imagination yet sentence starters that are simple and repeated throughout his work are left unquestioned. He has told me he tries to get his writing finished as quickly as possible as he doesn't like it.
There are things which I think are positive. My son idolises his teacher and she is warm, kind and seemingly conscientious. She is a young teacher and may not be given the support she needs.
The school has recently had a one day Ofsted and was graded as good. The report did mention that in the previous Ofsted writing progress for boys was below the national average and that the school was addressing this.
My son is making progress. He is reasonably happy at school. I do not think he is making the progress which he is capable of though.
I have talked to the teacher about positives and challenges last year. I had a parent interview this year and his teacher was extremely optimistic about my son's progress and said he was on par to meet expectations. I do not think he is although I did not disagree with her at the interview. My son was with me. The school encourages the children to go with parents to the interview.
Meanwhile my son is picking up on my concerns although obviously I have not said anything to him. Can anybody give me a bit of guidance on how to go about resolving this? I do a little extra work at home with my son but he is extremely resistant to this so I have backed of.
I do not want to take my son out of the school as there are many positives and he has developed firm friendships.

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Blinkyblink · 07/05/2017 06:44

You're a year 2 teacher at two different schools and you're asking for advice about your year 2 son.

I'm afraid that if you don't know the answer, unlikely that anyone else will

MaisyPops · 07/05/2017 06:49

Your son has admitted to rushing his work to get it done as quickly as possible. That's the issue. He can be as bright as anything but if his attitude to the task is to rush it then that's what needs addressing.

I don't know how it works in primary but in secondary if work is done to a poor standard then we make students do it again.

Could you speak to the teacher, explain what your child has said about rushing it and ask her to make him redo pieces he has rushed so rushing work isn't praised etc.

Whatever you do, don't go into "I've looked in his book and can't see a checklist". Not you place as a parent to critique lessons you weren't in. They may have been prompts on the board.

isthistoonosy · 07/05/2017 06:50

Id just ask to meet his teacher without your child present and if she feels she needs it maybe her (the teachers) mentor/ supervisor, and explain your concerns.

iamworkingonit · 07/05/2017 07:42

Thanks above two. Yes I think it is not only an issue of my son's progress but also a matter of diplomacy. My son struggles with letter formation and his work is quite laboured so getting him to redo the whole piece would be counter productive however pointing him in the right direction would be a start.

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mrz · 07/05/2017 07:54

Perhaps working on handwriting at home would help. If writing is less effort he may be inclined to put more effort into content.

GwendolynMary · 07/05/2017 07:55

I'm not a teacher, or in the UK, but my son has similar issues with handwriting. All teachers comment on it, he knows he isn't as good as his peers and as a result, he rushes or uses simple sentences to get the work done fast.

We were asked to seek assistance from an OT. We found one who specialises in handwriting and she has been amazing. She has identified some gross and fine motor issues that were making writing so tiring. She has also made letter formation interesting and kinda fun.

Because the OT isn't me, DS is waaay more inclined to listen and try. Plus he gets to play great games during the session, so always wants to go back.

If private OT is an option, I'd suggest starting there. In a single term, the progress has been amazing. And DS is a lot more confident now too.

SaltyMyDear · 07/05/2017 08:01

There is no diplomatic way to raise this with his teacher. You'll have to leave it, same as the rest of us have to.

iamworkingonit · 07/05/2017 08:10

Thanks OP he has always had problems with letter formation and when I did some (what I thought were fun activities ) with him at home he was not at all keen. Another person giving him a bit of time in this way might be something to discuss with his teacher. He is very much aware that he has difficulty in this area although his gross motor skills are good.

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user1469568833 · 07/05/2017 08:10

I often put a checklist on the working wall was we have created together at the start of the lesson, it isn't always in the books but they refer to it and use it . I think it's difficult being a parent and a teacher as teacher , may do things differently to how you would do it , you said he was making progress and is happy which are the most important things

mrz · 07/05/2017 08:21

I'm sure you know these ideas

Things to remember:
Upright working surfaces promote fine motor skills. Examples of these are: vertical
chalkboards; easels for painting; flannel boards; lite bright; magnet boards (or
fridge); windows and mirrors; white boards, etc. Children can also make sticker
pictures; do rubber ink-stamping; use reuseable stickers to make pictures; complete
puzzles with thick knobs; use magna-doodle and etch-a-sketch as well. The benefits
for these include: having the child's wrist positioned to develop good thumb
movements; they help develop good fine motor muscles; the child is using the arm
and shoulder muscles.
Fine Motor Activities
Moulding and rolling play dough into balls - using the palms of the
hands facing each other and with fingers curled slightly towards the palm.
Rolling play dough into tiny balls (peas) using only the finger tips.
Using pegs or toothpicks to make designs in play dough.
Cutting play dough with a plastic knife or with a pizza wheel by holding
the implement in a diagonal volar grasp.
Tearing newspaper into strips and then crumpling them into balls. Use
to stuff scarecrow or other art creation.
Scrunching up 1 sheet of newspaper in one hand. This is a super
strength builder.
Using a plant sprayer to spray plants, (indoors, outdoors) to spray snow
(mix food colouring with water so that the snow can be painted), or melt
"monsters". (Draw monster pictures with markers and the colours will run
when sprayed.)
Primary
Picking up objects using large tweezers such as those found in the
"Bedbugs" game. This can be adapted by picking up Cheerios, small cubes,
small marshmallows, pennies, etc., in counting games.
Shaking dice by cupping the hands together, forming an empty air space
between the palms.
Using small-sized screwdrivers like those found in an erector set.
Lacing and sewing activities such as stringing beads, Cheerios,
macaroni, etc.
Using eye droppers to "pick up" coloured water for colour mixing or
to make artistic designs on paper.
Rolling small balls out of tissue paper, then gluing the balls onto
construction paper to form pictures or designs.
Turning over cards, coins, checkers, or buttons, without bringing them to
the edge of the table.
Making pictures using stickers or self-sticking paper reinforcements.
Playing games with the "puppet fingers" -the thumb, index, and middle
fingers. At circle time have each child's puppet fingers tell about what
happened over the weekend, or use them in songs and finger plays.
Place a variety of forms (eg. blocks, felt, paper, string, yarn, cereal,
cotton) on outlines
Match shapes, colour, or pictures to a page and paste them within the
outlines
Primary
Self-Care Skills
Buttoning
Lacing
Tying
Fastening Snaps
Zipping
Carrying
Using a screwdriver
Locking and unlocking a door
Winding a clock
Opening and closing jars
Rolling out dough or other simple cooking activities
Washing plastic dishes
Primary
Sweeping the floor
Dressing
Scissor Activities
When scissors are held correctly, and when they fit a child's hand well, cutting
activities will exercise the very same muscles which are needed to manipulate a pencil
in a mature tripod grasp. The correct scissor position is with the thumb and middle
finger in the handles of the scissors, the index finger on the outside of the handle to
stabilize, with fingers four and five curled into the palm.
Cutting junk mail, particularly the kind of paper used in magazine
subscription cards.
Making fringe on the edge of a piece of construction paper.
Cutting play dough or clay with scissors.
Cutting straws or shredded paper.
Cutting
Use a thick black line to guide cutting the following:
A fringe from a piece of paper
Cut off corners of a piece of paper
Cut along curved lines
Cut lines with a variety of angles
Primary
Cut figures with curves and angles
Sensory Activities
The following activities ought to be done frequently to increase postural muscle
strength and endurance. These activities also strengthen the child's awareness of
his/her hands.
Wheelbarrow walking, crab walking
Clapping games (loud/quiet, on knees together, etc.)
Catching (clapping) bubbles between hands
Pulling off pieces of thera-putty with individual fingers and thumb
Drawing in a tactile medium such as wet sand, salt, rice, or "goop".
Make "goop" by adding water to cornstarch until you have a mixture similar
in consistency to toothpaste. The "drag" of this mixture provides feedback to
the muscle and joint receptors, thus facilitating visual motor control.
Picking out small objects like pegs, beads, coins, etc., from a tray of salt,
sand, rice, or putty. Try it with eyes closed too. This helps develop sensory
awareness in the hands.

iamworkingonit · 07/05/2017 09:06

Thanks mrz. I was certainly not aware of all of these ones. Some fun ideas too.

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HighMountain · 07/05/2017 09:13

Great post mrz , I will try some of those today. Thanks.

hels71 · 07/05/2017 10:09

we have just been told we are not allowed to have a checklist in the children's books as that means they are not doing things independently.

mrz · 07/05/2017 10:23

I'd also recommend the "Speed Up" programme

Abitofaproblem · 07/05/2017 10:32

My son is in year 2 and is having problems in writing too. He is missing out capital letters and his handwriting is all joined up but a bit messy. I have been told that because of that he may not even get the working towards expected level in SATs because he has to meet every single criteria on the list.

I have been told to practise with my son at home, but does anyone know when is the writing assessment is submitted?

Feenie · 07/05/2017 12:36

Third week in June.

Abitofaproblem · 07/05/2017 12:54

Thank you Feenie!

Feenie · 07/05/2017 13:21

He doesn't have to meet the handwriting criteria. He does have to use capital letters correctly though - and question marks, exclamation marks and apostrophes in contractions.

Abitofaproblem · 07/05/2017 13:43

Hi Feenie, DS is very good in reading actually, and I think his stories are ok in terms of flow and creativity. However, they are not descriptive enough (need to contain expanding noun phrases apparently?) and his grammar can be sloppy. So we will focus on those areas. Does he has to tick every single box on the checklist or just the majority of them to achieve expected level?

Feenie · 07/05/2017 13:55

Every single one except the handwriting ones.

Abitofaproblem · 07/05/2017 15:02

Every single one except the handwriting ones. Sigh......

Lowdoorinthewal1 · 07/05/2017 20:25

OP, I think you should use your teaching skills to get your DS engaged and working at home. Why would you back off the practise because he didn't fancy it??

Pick a good, relevant intervention and work on it at home just as you would if you had chance to give 1:1 in school. I have done this with my Y2 DS and it has made the world of difference to him. He didn't fancy it either, but I've got plenty of teacher tricks up my sleeve to get him on task and paying attention- and at the end of the day I just don't take any nonsense because I know it's in his best interests.

iamworkingonit · 08/05/2017 18:29

Thanks Lowdoorinthewal1. Sounds like a plan!

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