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Educational Milestones for Start of Reception????

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paulinec · 04/03/2007 19:46

I Know all children are difference, but, i am wanting to give the same start to ds2 that i gave to ds1 when starting reception. What eductional standard should he "ideally" be at when entering reception. He is a bright boy and very capable.

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FloatingInSpace · 04/03/2007 20:20

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brimfull · 04/03/2007 20:26

imo you should focus on

being able to dress himself,put coat and shoes on ,change into pe kit.

good at socialising

developing listening and concentration

washing hands going to loo

pencil control

If he's already doing all that then relax imo.

foxinsocks · 04/03/2007 20:27

wipe own bum

brimfull · 04/03/2007 20:32

we're still working on that one

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paulinec · 04/03/2007 20:34

foxinsocks, that is so true, my ds1 in the summer hols before he started school he shouted me to wipe his bum. I explained to him that he would have to learn to do it himself otherwise what would he do at school, the answer was " i will shout miss hall" He did master the art but still at six will ask me to do it when at home

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foxinsocks · 04/03/2007 20:36

lol - mine does the same pauline (even my dd, in yr2, will try it on every now and then)! I wish I'd spent a bit longer getting him and her to master the art before they started!

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TenaLady · 04/03/2007 20:41

Well, without too much pressure concentrate on counting and recognising numbers to a max of 20.

If he isnt already reading, read to him some simple Oxford Learning Tree books and get him to read the odd word to you and slowly build up.

If he is to your mind a bright little chap, then hilight this to teacher when he starts.

My Ds was reading OLT books stage 5 at his nursery. When he went into reception that started him on stage 1. I think I assumed all relevant info would be passed from the nursery to the school. Once hilighted, the teacher kept a closer eye on him and he soon sailed through all the stages.

Bucketsofdynomite · 04/03/2007 20:47

I'm not even thinking about it either, that's what DD's pre-school teachers spend half their time recording. My DD seems to be quite bright so I don't think she needs a headstart, she's likely to get bored and bossy like me!

hana · 04/03/2007 20:50

reception number recognition only goes up to 10
I was shocked at this when I was in last week to see the teacher!!!

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paulinec · 04/03/2007 20:50

Tenalady stage 5 ort at nursery, how fantastic, what month is your little one bithday ds1 was ort 4 in nursery but bloody hell 5 amazing, your little one will be posting their own threads soon.

My ds2 has just mastered putting pants and trousers on, but has a "thing" about putting things over his head, panics if he thinks they are going to get stuck, so glad he has to wear shirts, but the buttons!!!!

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frances5 · 04/03/2007 21:01

Basic manners/ social skills.
The ablity to wipe his bum and flush the toilet. A good pre school will provide your son with many of the skills needed for school.

I wouldnt bother with Oxford Reading tree books. They are boring enough the first time they are read. Since they are used in most primary school your son might find himself reading books that he has already "read". Your local library will have a good selection of far better books.

We have the the finger phonic books and the Jolly phonic DVD is a fun way of learning letter sounds. I think its better to teach letter sounds rather than letter names. Letter sounds are more useful.

emat · 04/03/2007 21:10

It's also good if they recognise their own name because then they can find their coat hook.
I'll also try and get ds to put his own coat on from now. I've been very lazy about teaching him how to do zips.

TenaLady · 04/03/2007 21:41

Paulinec he was 5 in September, thanks for your kind words regarding his progress.

Frances, your comments about phonics, you see Im not sure I agree with all that stuff.
I personally dont enjoy it and neither do I understand the logic, der!

Ds learned his skills from first enjoying story books and then giving it a try himself with the Peter and Jane Ladybird books (yawn)!
At least the OLT books have a bit of a story to them.

The phonics they teach in his class is superflous now as the words they are learning he recognised and read in Nursery.
I think that applies to a few of the children in his class too (I read with them twice a week).

TenaLady · 04/03/2007 21:42

oops ARE superfluous!

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paulinec · 04/03/2007 21:52

I agree tenalady, if the only thing you can do with your children, read, read , read. You are talking interacting looking at letter sounds and providing them with a life long love of books.

ds1 loved doing his letter sounds, ds2 not so keen but will "read" till the cows come home. Think it is what ever suits the child really.

I also like ort books and some of them in stages 8 9 10 are really quite funny at an adult level, ie. one book ds1 had the children has a visit from the prime minister, it was in fact lady thatcher, i found this very amusing. The grandma books are also very funny, ds1 thought these were very funny.

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willowcatkin · 04/03/2007 22:24

Tenalady can your son read 'rainforest', 'swimming', 'glittered' etc ?

My 4 yr old ds can because he has learnt phonics so he can read ANY decodable word, and not just the few they teach them in Reception.

My dd was taught phonics and she now reads the ORT books meant for Year 4 and above. Phonics is simply teaching children about the alphabet being the building blocks of words, just like the integers 1 - 9 are the building blocks for all numbers / maths etc.

And the beauty of them being able to read is that dd now reads to learn - her favourite books are non fiction and she is always coming to me with a new fact she has learnt and wants to enlighten me with

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sunnysideup · 04/03/2007 22:44

yes, but not everyone can spell it, cod

Agree though. This stuff will come to all of them in time, no hurry, no pressure...they shouldn't even be going to school at this age anyway imo.

sunnysideup · 04/03/2007 22:44

FIS, you got there first

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frances5 · 04/03/2007 22:50

TenaLady, if your child is managing without phonics then I'm pleased for him. Your child is gifted. However most children aren't able to learn to read and spell by omosis. They need phonics to help them. Its not even an issue of intelligence as there are plenty of bright children who are dyslexic.

My son likes books like the Guffalo or Hairy Maclary or Percy the Park Keeper books or a million other interesting titles. There are some fanastic children's books out there. Sharing books helps language skills as well as being fun.

A good primary school teacher will develop academic skills. It is a lot harder to develop social skills needed to make friends.

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