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mashooka · 24/01/2017 14:07

So, I went to see the reception year teacher at my DD's school. And the first thing she was me was 'is there a problem'. I asked for the meeting and felt that's a bit of a strange start. Does there need to be a problem in order to want to meet the teacher? Anyway, she says, we noticed a change behaviour in your DD last week, on friday something happened between her and another child, your DD tried to explain what was happening and in the end said, my mum said the other girl was a slug and that the other child was upset. We think your child has a vivid imagination and so at times when she doesn't know what to say, she blames things on someone else. Aside from that the teacher said, oh your DD chats a lot, she needs to focus on what she is doing more but she's a bright child and she is keeping up with the pace of education at the school so far. But your academic questions can be reserved till the parent-teacher meeting.

I had more specific questions for the teacher, can you explain how you are teaching number bonds (counting on, mental math etc.) and that it would help me reinforce things over the weekend when I do spend time with her. The teacher was rather dismissive and said, get your DD to explain what she did at school (well if my DD did that properly then I wouldn't have to come ask you, would I??!!!!) Anyway, I walked away feeling very dejected.

I was very disappointed with the teachers attitude, to me it almost came across like a lack of caring - I do happen to pay £5.5K a term for what is supposedly the top school in the country, the least I expect is a bit more than 10 mins of time (that too outside of the parent-teacher meeting) and some more tips on what I need to do with my DD to help her manage any playground fights or disagreements a bit better.

I came home and asked my DD, she said - she had a lot of difficulty explaining what happened that day, but as it transpires the other kid wouldn't agree to taking turns in being 'captain' in some game. I spent a lot of my time explaining to my DD that calling someone a slug because they wouldn't take turns or blaming it on mummy was not the right approach and that she needed to apologise. But I feel like I should be doing more to reinforce how to express one's feelings properly in words (without causing any upset).

Aside from my that, I was rather annoyed about the ' DD is keeping pace' comment as my DD spends a lot of time daily in reading, writing and doing maths. So, if anything - she'd be more than keeping pace. Is my DD getting bored at school because she's already done a lot of the work they are covering again and is therefore not paying attention?

Can I get some views on how to help with managing emotions for my DD. What do I also do in order to help in managing being bored due to repetition of work and also being able to sit/focus and talk less.

Separately, am I being over dramatic by being disappointed with the teacher's attitude. Anyway, I always felt that this teacher is very distant (you'd think that reception year teachers would be a bit more caring?). Should I be asking for a meeting with the pre-prep head and expressing my views or is that taking it too far?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the LONG post.

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Verbena37 · 24/01/2017 17:36

Lilagrace think you'll find there is.....
www.theguardian.com/money/2012/jun/02/free-nursery-cash-private-school

LilaGrace · 24/01/2017 17:43

His is only for the first year of school, maximum (depending on the month your child is born- much shorter time if you have a winter born child) and only if you haven't already used it up while at nursery.....?

LilaGrace · 24/01/2017 17:44

Though it's interesting- and maybe I'll use this towards my daughters first year of school fees- so thanks for the info Smile

user789653241 · 24/01/2017 19:12

Wow, I got my first ever "posts been deleted" experience!
What was that so bad that needed to be deleted??????

First one deleted was genuine question, second was response to rather mean comment from OP not to comment on her thread!

Will this be deleted as well, MN?

LilaGrace · 24/01/2017 19:22

Irvine- weird! You're post was perfectly fine as far as I could see 🙄

user789653241 · 24/01/2017 19:44

Thanks, Lila.
I'm kind a baffled, yes my comment was sarcastic, but never expected to be deleted! So it seems it's ok to say don't comment on a public forum, but if I say something OP doesn't like, it will be deleted.... bit disappointed, MNHQ!
People have rights to know what a horrible person I am from my deletable comment!Grin

highclere · 24/01/2017 20:06

I was baffled too @irvine. I even typed some comment about the censors then thought better of it. You never know who is behind the censorship these days Wink

Gaelach · 24/01/2017 20:09

It's worth noting that regardless of how much you pay for the school, you aren't paying the teacher's wages - it doesn't entitle you to her time. the least I expect is a bit more than 10 minutes of time nope. Big fat nope. Doesn't work like that, the teacher doesn't work for you.

As a teacher, I'm under direction from my union to have one single meeting per parent per school year lasting no more than 30 minutes. If you were a parent in the school I teach in, that wee meeting you arranged today would have been your yearly quota all used up.

Also, if the teacher said your child is keeping pace, great. You should be pleased with that, not disappointed. It seems like you were hoping the teacher would gush about your child and how capable she is. Telling a parent their child is keeping pace is about as gushy as a professional educator will get.

Is this your eldest child?

TanteJeanne · 24/01/2017 20:25

Maybe you could suggest that the school holds a session for all parents covering the curriculum, teaching and learning methods and discipline strategies etc. At my DCs' (state) primary, we have this every September. It's very useful and an efficient way for the teacher to explain this information to ALL parents at the same time.

Buildalegohouse · 24/01/2017 20:33

OP Ask to see the school's calculation policy. It should outline the teaching methods used in maths in each year group/ key stage.

user1484226561 · 24/01/2017 20:43

100% agree with Gaelach's post. It makes no difference to the teacher if the children in her class are paid for by their parents, or the government. She is not at your beck and call.

From your post it sounds like she had no idea why you were there. If she had had some information about what the meeting was about, she might have had a chance to get a text book out for you, print off some worksheets,or something,

but just turning up and expecting her to drop everything and tend to you every whim is never going to go down well.

Plus, she really isn't there to teach YOU anything!

OrangeSquashTallGlass · 24/01/2017 20:50

Fred your advice is terrible.

I agree with Gaelach. Just because you pay for your daughters education doesn't mean you own the teacher.

A teacher's time is incredibly limited. There is a reason there are allocated times to meet.

It sounds like you have a lovely relationship with your daughter and you're lucky enough to have time to spend with her. Instead of complaining to the headteacher, like Fred's terrible advice, put your energy into encouraging and developing a love of learning and a curiosity in your DC. Instead of going over the same thing she does at school (when she's achieving it perfectly well) spend the time widening her world.

sirfredfredgeorge · 24/01/2017 20:56

If you're paying for schooling, it is entirely appropriate to expect the school to accomodate you.

And it certainly matters if the class is paid for by the parents to the school - it may not matter to the teacher directly. But if that school is so incompetent that it cannot manage its staff contracts to include such interaction then the school has a management problem.

In a state school, where the dynamics are very different, then it's perfectly reasonable to not waste the teachers time with what are trivial questions (and indeed the state reception schools I've heard of tend to a good job of describing how they teach various things without prompting)

user1484226561 · 24/01/2017 21:20

and indeed the state reception schools I've heard of tend to a good job of describing how they teach various things without prompting exactly, there is a full and adequate education available to all in state schools. You may choose to pay for it instead, but you are paying for the same as the government is paying for, for state educated students. You don't get to own the teacher, any more than the parents of a child in a state school.

user789653241 · 24/01/2017 21:22

Thank you, highclere.

rollonthesummer · 24/01/2017 21:31

Is there a single 'top school in the country'?!

What is that 'top'-ness based on?

Mamabear12 · 24/01/2017 21:36

Perhaps the teacher doesn't think your child needs to work on anything? When I had a teacher meeting for the first time the teacher said my DD was doing well, loves school etc etc. Didn't mention I needed to work on anything with her. But before my meeting I overheard her tell the parents before me that they need to work on X,Y and Z w their child. And another mom mentioned to me the teacher said they needed to work on blending more. My DD is quite bright and learns fast and already knew all the phonics, blending etc that she was learning at the time (learned at school as we didn't do at home). I just took her to the park after school and let her play and be a child. She did all her learning at school. Obviously, now that she is in reception and reading, I make sure to read w her every night.

I think if a teacher feels you need to work on something more she will tell you. Or perhaps you should ask her what your DD needs to work on or if she is struggling with anything etc.

sirfredfredgeorge · 24/01/2017 22:37

rollonthesummer I think maybe it's based on map position, so it's in Thurso or Wick or somewhere like that?

CripsSandwiches · 25/01/2017 13:41

I think there are some separate issues. Firstly the teacher sounds dismissive about your concerns. That could be a genuine issue.

The rest sounds like you're being far too pushy to be honest and maybe your child's teacher has picked up on that?

Forcing your child to do hours of extra work every week isn't going to guarantee her being ahead of her peers and is likely just to put her off academics in the long term. Why not just read the books she comes home with from school and a few extra if she wants to. Enjoy sharing books together, play hard games, build lego, allow her to develop her own interests.

If concentration at school is an issue you should be making sure she has plenty of physical activity and time for free play.

catkind · 25/01/2017 16:33

Gosh, we've always found DC's teachers a lot more approachable than that, at bog standard state schools. I'm kind of wondering if the teacher had to get to a meeting or pick up their own children or something and was short of time. Or they just had a bad day. You haven't been in every week all school year have you OP? Wink < joking.

Maybe next time try to get clear what it is you want to talk about, and let the teacher know before the meeting so they can be prepared. Bullet points if there are more than one thing.

catkind · 25/01/2017 16:41

I'm also wondering just how much sitting and focussing is being required of these little receptioners. I like the sound of what DD's class are doing in state reception much better - lots of and lots of playing, very little sitting and focussing, and lots of learning at their own pace not anyone else's (DD's pace is fast!). But can see that the facilities and small class sizes of private must be an attraction for a few years down the line.

rollonthesummer · 25/01/2017 20:36

rollonthesummer I think maybe it's based on map position, so it's in Thurso or Wick or somewhere like that?

Grin
LittleBearPad · 25/01/2017 20:48

I'd calm down if I were you. She's only 4 or 5. Let her just enjoy school and if you're going to arrange a meeting with the teacher in advance give her an agenda and idea of what you wish to discuss.

Thurso Grin

ScarletSienna · 25/01/2017 20:52

Some independent schools don't accept the free hours subsidy in nursery class or reception.

Does the school have a policy re contact. For example, teachers should reply to emails within 48 hours etc? I would email next time and just say you'd like 5 mins if possible to go over...

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