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Still in nappies at night, anyone's 41/2 yr old like mine???

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pirategirl · 21/02/2007 21:59

Was gonna post this in the wee thread, but wanted feedback from those of you with children now at school.
I dont know the way to go on this. Getting her up for a wee in the middle of the night, totallt knackering for me. Also she is a bad enough sleeper without me waking her. Have tried but sometimes she wont go, then in the morning is wet cos I've missed it.

Some mums say there kiddies naturally got dry, when they cameout of day nappies.

Will it happen naturally? Her nappies are still wet in the morning, altho some mornings not so wet.

I have given up not giving her a drink in the evenings cos she is sometimes really thirsty and with the colds has needed a drink. I manage to have drinks in the evening and not wee!!! So will it happen for her that she can hold it in, or start to get up for a wee.

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MrsSchadenfreude · 21/02/2007 23:21

Can you not give her a drink, say 20-30 minutes before she goes to bed, and then make her have a wee before getting into bed?
If she is in a nappy at night, she won't "feel" wet - could you see if leaving it off means that she would wake up when she weed?

nikkie · 21/02/2007 23:28

DD2 is 5 1/2 and she has a wet bed almost every day, nothing seems to make a difference so I usually wake her at 10.30 and put her on potty then she has a kylie on the bed but its usually wet in the am.School nurse said avoid dark coloured drinks but don't stop her drinking.If she is still wet at 7 then they will become involved.

nikkie · 21/02/2007 23:30

Oh and she was dry at 18 months in the day so its not linked.

pirategirl · 22/02/2007 09:09

HI,

Most nights her last drink is as you say about a good half an hour b4 bed.

I make sure she wees b4 i put the nappy on at about 8.oo, before lights out. If she is still awake, which is often into the night, I have got her to shout down that she needs a wee.
Yet in the morning she is still wet.

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titchy · 22/02/2007 09:59

Chill out! Keep her in pull ups! Some chidlren are night trained at 3, others not until they are 8 - there's a hormone that suppresses urine production and until this hormone kicks into action there's not a lot you can do. FWIW dd was dry at night just after her 4th birthday, ds just after his 5th birthday. One of dd's classmates is only just dry at night now (he's just 8) and another one (7.5) wears pull ups at night.

There will be plenty of reception children still in pull ups so don't worry - it'll happen when she's ready.

titchy · 22/02/2007 10:00

Oh and don't bother restrcting drinks at bed time - the more drinks the better as the signal to wee will be stronger!

Steward · 22/02/2007 11:23

Just a thought, is it wet because they know they are wearing a nappy and connot be bothered to go the toilet. I would try them without a nappy for a few days and see how they got.

I have been lucky with both of my children. Both started wearing underwaer in bed a couple of months before 3rd Birthday and never had to put a nappy on them in bed since. I have had a few wet beds but i am a type of parent who expects the odd bed wetting now and again, while the child is potty training.

My tip is, if they wet the bed do not make a big fuss. Just say accidents happen and just change the sheets and nightwear. I kno it can cause more washing, but if you make a big deal over it the child will get stressed over it and more likly wet the bed even more.

WigWamBam · 22/02/2007 11:32

Dd is nearly six and still in a nappy at night time, despite being dry in the day for over three years ... it's no big deal. And it's definitely not just because she can't be bothered to get up to go to the toilet - she doesn't wake for a wee, and isn't ready to go through the night without one.

It's not a case of "holding it in", dryness at night happens when the hormone that titchy talks about kicks in. It suppresses urination overnight, and can happen any time up until the age of about 7.

And there's not a lot of point in getting her up in the night; it makes her tired, it makes you tired, and it's not going to help her be dry at night.

Relax ... it really isn't that big a deal. One in five 5-year olds and one in six 6-year-olds is still not dry at night - it's very common.

DizzyDoris · 22/02/2007 11:38

DS1 was in a pull up at night until about 5.5
I tried stopping drinks, lifting etc. It made no differnece, his pull up was always soaking.
Then there came a day when his pull up was dry a few mornings in a row. He stopped wearing it, and apart from the very odd accident he hasn't looked back. He is coming up 7.
DS2 is 4 next month, in the past few weeks he has had dry pull up. And has been dry at night without a pull up for a fortnight.
I would go with the child. it will just click.
If you make a big deal out of it , it will just lead to stress.

donnie · 22/02/2007 11:39

my dd1 is 5.3 and still in night nappies. She isnt ready yet either! I don't worry too much about it.

MegaLegs · 22/02/2007 11:46

If you are still worried and want support children can be referred to a eurenesis clinic at the age of 5 rather than 7 now.

scotlou · 22/02/2007 11:54

My dd is 4.5 too and still wears pull ups at night! She actually still has a bottle of milk in her bed too - it relaxes her and she goes to sleep by herself so I'm not stopping it until she wants to!. The wetting doesn't bother me either - I've read on here re the hormone, so I reckon she'll do it when she's ready.

jwud · 22/02/2007 12:08

My ds wet at night for ages and then it just clicked overnight and he was dry. We just had pj's in our room, he would come in to us if he woke up wet in the night, we'd quickly change him and he'd climb into our bed and go back to sleep. No stress. Then we'd sort out his bed in the morning and bath him before school. There's no point worrying, they're ready when they're ready!

PandaG · 22/02/2007 12:14

My DD is 4.11, and still has soaking wet nappies every morning. If we go on a long car journey where she is likely to fall asleep she has a nappy on then too, as she will wet when asleep. But, she will not use the nappy if she is awake in the car, and there isn't a convienient lay - by to pull into.

I am hoping that the hormone kicks in soon, but trying not to worry about it.

PussyWillow · 22/02/2007 12:36

My dd (6 in June0 has only just become dry at night. She still has milk at bedtime because ds still likes it and they enjoy the warm drink.

She would get very upset about the whols thig as (she calimed0 all her class were having sleepovers and she couldn't, and she was the only one who was still wet at night ( I knoew this was true as most of the apresnt had discussed it last summer).

So after monhts of wet beds (she wouldn't wear a nappy) I finally bought a bed wetting alarm and after 2 months she has been consisently dry now for 2 weeks.

It claims to train the brain to get used to the signals, just like day time trianing, and it certianly worked for dd. It was a real pain because the idea of the alarm is not to wake the child (far too deep a sleeper, just used to bury her head under the pillow!!) but to alert the parents who would then go and wake the child to go to the bathroom. The first few nights reminded me of having a newborn but i am so glad it has worked.

Hulababy · 22/02/2007 12:49

Like already said by others, it is very common still at 4yo to be wet at night. DD is 4y10m and still not consistently dry at night. We can go days and weeks sometimes without accident, and then return to accidents again. DD hasn't worn nappies in bed since turning 4 at her request. Instead we have some large squares from mothercare that go over her sheet, and und er her - reusable bed mats. These make any night time changes easier and quicker.Nothing like lifting or withholding drinks have made any difference, although I think eliminating squash may have a little bit.

I was told it was all to do with a hormone required that kicks in normally between the ages of 18 months and 7 years. Until that happens there is little you can do about it, and GPs won't normally consider it a problem until a child is 7.

Try not to worry about it.

Hulababy · 22/02/2007 12:50

Oh and agree it in not linked to day time wetting at all. DD was dry from 24 months very easily. So no link there.

hellywobs · 25/02/2007 18:11

yes my son is 4 and a quarter and still in night-time nappies. Basically because he drinks too much juice and milk at night. I'm not worried about it.

PrettyCandles · 25/02/2007 18:33

My 6yo and my 4yo are both still in night nappies which are soaking wet in themorning.

When they are ready we will go cold turkey on the nappies, hopefully in the summertime, accepting that there will be wet beds several times a night. I think that they will learn to recognise the feeling and wake up to go to the loo. If there is no improvement after a week or two we will go back to nappies.

No pressure. If they're physically not mature enough then there's no point stressing about it. It can run in families and my siblings and I were very late. I've no doubt that stressing about it made things worse for us.

toomanyprojects · 27/02/2007 14:35

DD1 (now 6.5) was in pull ups until just before she was 5 (as she is August birthday this was end YrR) - she still drinks milk before bed and was soaking every day until we went on holiday when I guess she was not so hydrated. She has very occasional accident normally when she has only been to the toilet 2 or 3 times a day - often she won't go at school and then forgets until tea time which is then only the second wee of the day!

DS1 is 4.2 and still wears pull-ups - soaking every morning and often leak!

Lifting is such a nightmare I gave up on it - we only have a downstairs bathroom and they needed to be carried!

lazymoo · 28/02/2007 01:06

My 7 yr old was still in nappies at night until 3 weeks ago, the fact that he has cp is only part of the reason, my mam was 11 and mil was 7 before they stopped having accidents at night, my paed forwarded me to the wee clinic, she really gave me food for thought, she recommended loads and loads (at least 2 litres) of drink up until 5pm and then after a drink with supper, nothing but sips. She said absoloutely no hot drinks or caffinated drinks after 6, no chocolate to eat either (which threw me a bit, as he doesn't like chocolate) and she recommended that we only put him on the toilet at bed time, 9pm and 6am, because he had to learn to notice what the feeling of a full bladder felt like. She also said he needed to have his blood pressure taken, and a wee sample taken for the possibility of urine infection; and then she told me that boys are more likely to be bed wetters than girls. She also told me that some people just do not produce desmopressen the hormone which tells your brain not to wee when you are asleap. Its working and now he has been dry for a week FINGERS CROSSED, go to your GP and ask for the urine test, and a referal to the Euneretic (sp) Nurse/clinic. It is in your childs best interest for you to at least go to one session.
Crikey that was long sorry.

lazymoo · 28/02/2007 01:13

TMP had you thought of putting a potty or maybe an empty pop bottle in you DS bedroom (just at nights) so you didn't have to carry him downstairs to the loo, even if it was only a short term messure, until your child was old enough to be gently led downstairs to the toilet.
You might be shocked at the potty in the room thing, but if you think about it, it's just an extension of the poe our greatgrandparents used.

keyboard · 28/02/2007 09:59

My ds is also 4.5 and still wears pull ups at night. I tried waking him up at night to visit the toilet, restricting drinks before bedtime, etc, but nothing worked.

Our doctor recommended a website called eric online to us which I didn't think was any good, but it might help you or someone else on here.

The doctor told me quite a lot of children (especially boys) aren't dry at night at this age, but it's not considered a problem until they reach the age of seven.

Both my dd1 and dd2 were dry day and night when they were potty trained at the age of 2 so it's frustrating to see my ds still using pull ups.

toadstool · 03/03/2007 09:11

Mine is dry but still wears pull-ups at night because she is anxious about it. She has had [a] a cold and peed not only her but our bed, and [b] cystitis. I'm not bothered about it as she's usually dry so I'm reintroducing pants.

sarflondon · 05/03/2007 13:35

DS3 is 4.5 and in pull ups at night. Dry for about 4 nights in a row so we start to think time to ditch the pullups and then we will have a really wet one. I am waiting for the Easter holiday and hope to crack it then.