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Operation Christmas Child - has anyone successfully argued and won...

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Luna7993 · 21/09/2016 13:41

DDs school has already sent out a message notifying us to "Save Shoe boxes for Operation Christmas Child!" Last year I got in a huge discussion with head about how I thought this was an inappropriate charity. Gearing up again for another Christmas season of arguing :(
DD goes to a CofE school (we had no other option in terms of our location) so I understand why we need to support Christian charities, but I have issues particularly with OCC due to their evangelical nature, inappropriate use of aid, etc etc (google if you need more info). I'm just wondering if anyone has ever successfully got their school to reconsider supporting this group. Thanks!

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Paddington68 · 02/10/2017 15:36

Copy in the Chair of Governors and the Diocese Education Office. Can you say where in the country you are?

horsemadmom · 03/10/2017 11:40

I got it stopped at DD's school 10 years ago. They were totally unaware that the lids and boxes were to be wrapped separately so that bibles and evangelical material could be put in. Grotesque organisation .

Witchend · 03/10/2017 14:47

I met a young man last year who had received a box several times over his childhood. He had no idea it was a Christian organisation as he was in a Muslim area and they didn't put any evangelical stuff in. He knew it was a Christian festival, and that's as far as his knowledge went.
He found, as quite a strict Muslim, that he was quite disgusted that there was a campaign to stop it as he said for every shoebox they don't get, that's a child who doesn't get a present. He was planning on packing 3 shoeboxes himself-I met him when he was buying three of every toy and I asked if he had 3 children (he looked too young for that).

They ask for the boxes to be open so that they can check there are no unsuitable things in-that's chocolate (because it melts!), out of date food, war games (eg guns), broken toys etc.

JaimesGoldenHand · 04/10/2017 18:19

School will be withdrawing from OCC and supporting Rotary instead. The PP about the recipient perspective did give me pause for thought. However, on reflection, I still feel we have done the right thing. We will buy a Good Gift as well as doing shoe boxes so that we are still helping people further afield.

Thanks all for this thread and for the links and sample letters that made this very easy.

roguedad · 05/10/2017 20:13

My kid's school stopped doing it following some comments and information by me and others. Samaritan's Purse's is all about abusive evangelism. If people do want to work through a Christian charity there are options with groups that do genuinely good work without evangelising. Christian Aid is pretty good, for example. And as noted above there are shoebox appeals that have no issues, other than perhaps the e-impact of shipping (I prefer to donate cash now). Huge support to all the people trying to stop OCC's antics. A printout of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child is a good thing to show to Heads, esp Article 14.

thegreylady · 06/10/2017 07:37

There is an excellent charity called Mary's Meals which does a Christmas gift collection. They are non evangelical and do an excellent job. I'll find a link.

thegreylady · 06/10/2017 07:40

marysmeals.org.uk

RapidStreaming · 06/10/2017 20:15

Would any one care to send me their letters so I can cut and paste bits?
Chtistian values school here.

JaimesGoldenHand · 06/10/2017 20:59

DRAWING LARGELY ON A PP

Dear XXXX

I am writing to you with regard to the Operation Christmas Child Christmas box scheme. My family is new to the school and therefore I am a little light on background knowledge so I hope you will take this email in the spirit it is sent and forgive me if this has all been discussed and resolved in past years. It is a little long but I hope you will forgive this too!

I have the greatest respect for the charitable activities of the school, and support them wherever possible. Unfortunately I do not feel able to support the Operation Christmas Child shoebox appeal for a number of reasons. I am not sure if you are aware of the controversy surrounding Samaritan’s Purse/Operation Christmas Child, so felt I ought to write to you in case the school was unaware.

Firstly, the distribution of the shoeboxes has an overtly evangelical purpose with efforts being made to convert the recipient children, regardless of their religious or cultural affiliations. Samaritan’s Purse say on their website that "In the hands of local churches, every gift-filled shoebox is a powerful tool for evangelism and discipleship". Religious literature is distributed with the shoeboxes (no longer inside the boxes from the UK, but certainly with them). Children are invited/coerced to attend Christianity lessons after receiving their boxes and then encouraged to convert and bring others to their new faith. It is documented that the shoeboxes have been used as leverage to sign up children to the course.

Secondly, the form of Christianity supported by Samaritan’s Purse is a fundamentalist form of the religion, which promotes extreme values that are diametrically opposed to my own and, I believe, SCHOOL’s own values. Samaritan’s Purse and in particular the President, Franklin Graham are linked to Franklin Graham’s father’s (Billy Graham) Evangelistic Association and their “Greatest Journey” curriculum. They very clearly campaign against equal rights and same-sex marriage in particular for example - here is a link to an article written by Samaritan’s Purse, which expresses views that I personally find highly offensive and that I hope run counter to SCHOOL’s own values. www.samaritanspurse.org/article/persecution-against-u-s-christians-on-the-rise/

Thirdly, I feel it is inappropriate to support an organisation whose founder is blatantly and publicly intolerant of other religions as demonstrated by such quotes describing Islam as “a very wicked and evil religion”. On Hinduism he says “…we travelled to the subcontinent of India, with its hundreds of millions of people locked in the darkness of Hinduism… These people were bound by Satan’s power.”
I also cannot ignore his homophobic beliefs, demonstrated by writing in his magazine that Vladimir Putin's state-sanctioned homophobia should serve as a lesson to President Obama. This website probably explains more clearly what I am trying to say: humanism.org.uk/humanism/humanism-today/humanists-doing/good-causes-and-charities/samaritans-purse/. I particularly draw your attention to the link to this article www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/10/religion.society written by a Christian minister in case you should think my concerns have an anti-Christian or anti-religion motivation.

The website www.humanistlife.org states the following: “Several other charitable organisations and reputable businesses, including the Cooperative, have withdrawn their support for Operation Christmas Child. The charity Save The Children has questioned its effectiveness and expressed concerns about the use of evangelism in the context of people in need. Some leading teachers’ Unions, including the NASUWT, have pointed out the difficult position that schools are placing themselves in when they support such charities without giving careful thought to their stated mission. I read on another website that the Charities Commission has also expressed concern that “for hiding their missionary aims from teachers and parents of school children asked to support the scheme, and from volunteers helping the project. They found that Operation Christmas Child "appeal leaflets sent to parents and teachers say nothing about any missionary aim, or religious affiliation."

I would additionally say that I note and agree with views that sending gifts so far across the world is neither particularly efficient in terms of the aid they provide nor environmentally responsible.

I do think it is a fantastic idea for the children to be involved in giving, supporting and thinking of others, in particular at Christmas time. There are many alternatives to Samaritan’s Purse. These may also involve giving closer to home, which addresses the efficacy issues I mentioned above. Some hospices and care homes fund similar schemes. Another possibility is Mary's Meals, which runs a backpack project. (www.marysmeals.org.uk/get-involved/the-backpack-project/). Link to Hope is a Christian organisation providing gifts to children in Eastern Europe, but without any ulterior motive (linktohope.co.uk). There are also secular alternatives such as the Rotary Club shoebox appeal, I wonder if you would consider offering these as alternatives. If it is too late to change plans for this year, perhaps these might be considered for future years?

I am sorry this is such a long email, but I wanted to make sure that I offered some explanation and evidence. If the school is committed to Samaritan’s Purse then I hope you will understand that we will not be taking part and will instead make other arrangements for DS and DD to participate in charitable giving – perhaps via the Good Gifts website.

Thank you for reading this and I hope you will understand why I felt I had to write.

childmaintenanceserviceinquiry · 06/10/2017 21:14

I heard about SP and did the research like many of you above, so I objected to the school supporting this "cause". But I have a good friend who is a devout Christian who does support Operation Christmas Child. She becomes very angry about the articles and states they are not true. I dont want to fall out with my friend but I do wonder if she is being misled slightly by her church. So I was wondering who has written these articles and if they are truly independent?

I am not Christian and would rather support local good causes so it doesnt really affect me.

2014newme · 07/10/2017 11:32

@Witchend why would it be an issue that a Muslim child would not get a Christmas present given you said that in the example they did not know what Christmas is? There are vast swathes of tge world that aren't Christian, does it matter that they don't get xmas gifts?

exexpat · 07/10/2017 16:27

@childmaintenanceserviceinquiry Many Christians also take issue with Operation Christmas Child, partly because of the type of Christianity it is promoting (and the organisation behind it, Samaritan's Purse, and its leader, Franklin Graham, who is a major Trump-backing, anti-gay campaigner who came up with the idea of banning Muslim migration to the US long before Trump did), but also because it promotes Western materialism, and is an unhelpful, wasteful form of charity.

This blog post by a Methodist minister gives a good run-down of the issues from a Christian perspective (read all three pages): um-insight.net/in-the-world/ministry-with-the-poor/i-am-against-operation/

ICantStoptheDogChasingFlies · 07/10/2017 16:31

Our school switched to Teams 4 U after concerns were raised about Operation Christmas Child. Also a C of E school, btw.

teams4u.com/shoebox-appeal/

childmaintenanceserviceinquiry · 07/10/2017 16:55

thank you ex I will take a look.

Norestformrz · 07/10/2017 17:26

http://www.inminds.co.uk/occ-articles.html

80sMum · 07/10/2017 17:34

Last year I received an all-staff email, letting us know that the school was taking part in OCC and the children would be submitting filled shoeboxes. I replied, saying that I thought it was not a charity that the school should be supporting and sent a few links to articles. Apparently, I wasn't the only person to complain. The school changed its mind and supported a local charity instead.

clarinsgirl · 07/10/2017 17:51

Yes, I talked to the head then sent her several links to articles about the right wing Christian ideology, facts about what they actually do and links to threads on here. I offered to set up an alternative scheme which we've done every year since (about the last 7 years). Pupils from the school now make up gift bags of stocking fillers. These go to children in local domestic abuse refuges.

Swimbikerun · 07/10/2017 19:27

Yes, I have. But I am not popular. School had been doing it for years, did have to be part of the PTA though to make the change.

exexpat · 09/10/2017 21:48

@childmaintenanceserviceinquiry (and anyone else who is interested) Someone posted this link on another thread, which I think puts the Christian and charitable case against OCC even better: baptistnews.com/article/stuffing-shoe-boxes-for-the-worlds-poor-maybe-you-should-reconsider/#.WdvgsTtlmT_

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