Late 56 times since September

[TrappedNerve]

Hi , very embarassed to put the title of the thread up.

Dd is in reception and has always been an amazing sleeper, went to afternoon nursery and is generally hard work waking up.

I'm super organised, have everything ready, down to socks and underwear being laid out and I get up around 5.30.

The problem is whatever time I try and get her up it's a nightmare, she cries and says she's tired and I have to physically carry her out of bed in the end.

I have a chronic illness which means I'm in a lot of pain and struggle with this. My ds is 13 and has asd and I have stupidly done way too much for him of a morning, he's completely and utterly reliant on me to dress him etc as he struggles with his uniform but then does PE in school twice a week and manages fine.

So the problem is quite clear, I need to firstly stop doing so much for ds as he's been mollycoddled for so long as was an only child for 8 yrs until I had dd. I accept that is all my fault.

So what can I do for September?
I had a meeting with the head and the attendance officer from the council this week and it was awful, mentioned fines etc but it made me feel like such a bad mum.

When I say 56 lates were usually the ones running through the gate as dd classroom door closes so it's not chronically late but enough to flag up the problem.

Thanks for reading if you've got this far :)

[AndNowItsSeven]

Art 9pm really isn't an appropriate bed time for a reception age child.

[Cleo1303]

Good luck, OP

You may have some tantrums over the iPad but hold firm.

Well done putting the bed together in 10 hours - I am so hopeless at anything like that I'd still be doing it!

[Artandco]

And - why not? They get 11 hrs sleep which is the guidelines. They sleep 9pm-8am.

They are in Greece with grandparents atm. Where bedtime is around 11pm, and they wake at 10am. Then have a 3 hr siesta later. So actually get around 14 hrs sleep despite the later nights

Many friends sleep 7pm-5am so get far less.

[user789653241]

AndNow, my ds never went to bed before 9, even before starting school.
Still wakes early and never needed a nap during the day either.
Some children don't need so much sleep, I think. (though I started to worry a bit after hearing link between less sleep and early dementia.)

[user789653241]

wakes up early

[Ditsy4]

Lay out his clothes in order and take photos then make a chart. Stickers for achieving then stickers for achieving in a given time.
DD I agree IPad banned after tea. It has been proven it overstimulates the brain.
Bed time ready for sleep by 7:30. I had a hard job getting my daughter up in the mornings. I'm a morning person she isn't. Sons were up .
In class it is irritating to have kids walking in late. Ours seem to dribble in so you are start stop all the time.

[paxamdays]

Art you've enlightened me! I've been fretting for a while, my DS 6 (7 next month) is NEVER asleep before 9 and wakes up between 7:30 and 8. I thought he wasn't getting enough sleep but going by what you've said he must be just fine.

[Artandco]

Pax- here you go . So between 10 hrs 45 mins, and 10 hrs 30 for his age. Therefore 9pm-7.30am is perfectly adaquate

www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Childrenssleep/Pages/howmuchsleep.aspx

[user789653241]

I started thread about length of sleep once. There were surprisingly many children who sleep less than normal. They all seems to turn out to be ok.
But I wish my ds slept more adequately. He sleeps waaay less than art's link.

[MrsHathaway]

Agree with Art about sleep patterns. If you don't need the child to get up at 7 (eg a quick dresser who lives five minutes from school) then bed time can be later to fit with their natural sleep patterns.

None of mine has ever needed much sleep so I've been aware of the guidelines and ranges for a long time. My 8yo needs 10h15 according to that link; at the moment that's typically 21.15-07.30.

I think the back cycling (just shoes, then just socks and shoes, then jumper, socks and shoes, etc) sounds ideal for the older child as it helps his day get gradually easier.

We have very strict controls built into our tablet and indeed our router; and we've certainly found that the children are far more accepting when the machine says time is up than when I say so Good habits have to start early.