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Parents support teachers - Boycott Sats - Kids' Strike May 3rd

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SuzieAllkins · 27/04/2016 21:15

I am hoping that parents have heard of the Kids' Strike on May 3rd which has been set up by an anonymous group of parents who say 'Enough is enough'?' Their campaign supports schools in trying to reach the Government with the message that we need to stop national testing and let teachers teach in the way that they know is best. As a former primary school teacher (who used to administer Year 6 SATs) and a parent of two young children I shall be fully supporting this campaign on 3rd May by taking my school aged child out of school for a fun day of learning. I do not want my children to become stressed and develop a negative attitude to learning. Although the school my eldest attends is wonderful in developing the 'whole child', the pressure is on the teachers to 'perform' and submit figures to reach unreachable targets. It is wonderful to see, on the Letthekidsbekids website that so many head teachers and teachers are supporting this campaign and are saying thank you to parents for helping their voice to be heard. Our children are too young to be put under pressure like this - the new curriculum's demands are bewildering to me! Children at the age of 6 and 10 years are expected to know grammatical knowledge which even scholars in the subject can't answer!! These are not skills which will set our children up for life. There are many around the country who are supporting this campaign. If you haven't heard about it, check out the website to see if you'd like to join in on Tuesday!

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NewStartNewName · 30/04/2016 00:11

It's about standing up for what you believe in, and standing up for your kids. I personally have explained why they are staying home with me - it's not about avoiding what's "hard", you have to stand up and be counted when you don't agree with something. I would be proud of any of my DCs for standing by their principles.

Feenie · 30/04/2016 00:19

Quite! Where would we be now if throughout history people had whined about not doing any good, people won't listen, what's the point, etc, etc?

Come on!

NewStartNewName · 30/04/2016 00:32

I like your passion feenie a shame more people don't share it.

I am the only person in my school standing up - but over the next couple years when friends are moaning about how much pressure their kids are under - they will have no one to blame but themselves - now is the time to make a stand.

Feenie · 30/04/2016 00:47

Yep - when your Y7 child gets pulled all over to do resist for a test in December that they are no more capable of passing than they were in May when they should be acclimatising to the huge prospect of high school, don't blame us.

When your 6/7 year old is doing tests that are way beyond them in a hall for externally marked tests, donr blame.us.

Unfortunately, the kind of people complaining are the kind of parents whose kids are in the top groups anyway - I'm alright,.Jack - as for the rest, fuck 'em.

Lots of evidence on this thread.

Also lots of incredulity from teachers and switched on parents.

SeventyNineBottlesOfWine · 30/04/2016 00:49

I am another standing up. My DD knows why. I've explained why and she understands the importance of fighting for a cause you believe in.

Her class teacher has thanked me for doing it and told me that if she had children she'd do the same.

NewStartNewName · 30/04/2016 00:58

Feenie you are absolutely right! And if we can't change things, I will happily point out that they should have stood up when they had the chance

Feenie · 30/04/2016 01:01

Thank you, newstartnewname and seventybottlesofwine Thanks

NewStartNewName · 30/04/2016 01:20

I do find it odd how many people are unwilling to stand up, the government is walking all over us, they do not care what we think and what we want for our own children, and unless we do something about it we have no hope of changing things.

I hope we can make changes, and I hope next years kids and those to follow benefit from it - and I won't hesitate to tell all the people that didn't bother that their kids are better off because of people like us that did!

AnnaFiveTowns · 30/04/2016 03:46

There are far too many apathetic people. We all need to fight for the welfare of our children. Allowing them to strike is not teaching them to just give up when exams are tough, it's teaching them to stand up to something that is wrong. And something is very wrong when childhood anxiety/ depression/ self -harm are going through the ceiling.

I don't think that this is a problem which doesn't affect high achievers. My dd excels at school; this is partly because she's a perfectionist. I think that she is more at risk of anxiety over tests than a child that struggles academically because she feels that she is expected to pass. This excessive and inappropriate testing is shit for all school children and it needs to stop.

Where will it end? Who knows -but at least those of us prepared to fight for our children can say that we tried our best. And i dont think that this will fade way; there are far too many extremely intelligent, professional and seriously pissed off parents on board this campaign for it to just flop. The whole thing is gathering momentum by the day.

I hadn't realised that teachers were not able to strike about the curriculum! I've been getting quite angry at their lack of action but this would explain it. All the more reason why we parents need to keep fighting.

Rosebud05 · 30/04/2016 06:04

Under current legislation, occupational groups are very limited in terms of what they can strike about.

Striking about pay is permitted. Striking because the DFE are an utter shambles, academisation, over-testing of children etc etc isn't technically permitted but yes these are often the primary reaaom s for industrial action.

FarAwayHills · 30/04/2016 07:10

I would love to know how SATS resits in Y7 would work.

My DDs Y7 English lessons in no way resemble Y6 literacy lessons. I can't imagine that Y7 teachers will have the time or inclination to drill and prepare kids for SATS resits, so they could possibly fail again - then what? Do the test again? Hmm

ReallyTired · 30/04/2016 07:17

The school day is going to be extended in many schools. Maybe the year 7s who have failed their sats will have after school lessons.

FarAwayHills · 30/04/2016 07:23

As if the pressure isn't already bad enough. I can just imagine the added stress and shame of having to resit SATS in Y7 would cause so many kids.

TimeforaNNChange · 30/04/2016 07:25

It does seem that people taking part each have different reasons for doing so; some disagree with the testing regime completely, others object to the way it's been administered this year, some have concerns over the content of the curriculum, others disagree with the proposals in the white paper and there are also people saying that they are taking part to "teach the DfE a lesson".

I understand the potential of mass action and social disobedience, but it's most effective against single, specific issues (such as the poll tax).
This appears to be action by parents based on general, and wide ranging dissatisfaction, rather than a concerted, targeted attempt to change a specific policy.

I think its impact will be diluted. What will the headlines say? "Parents take action", but against what?

Rosebud05 · 30/04/2016 07:31

There are national headlines about parents taking action. En masse. With the backing of teachers including heads.

The exact wording of the headlines are a bit irrelevant in light of collective parent/carer action imvho.

The ball is most definitely rolling...

soimpressed · 30/04/2016 07:40

I would definitely support parents doing this in my school. The administration of the tests this year is much more in line with how the Year 6 tests are carried out and I think this means the government is planning to do away with teacher assessment next year.

TimeforaNNChange · 30/04/2016 07:45

rosebud I just don't understand what those headlines will achieve? What is the goal, aim, purpose?

"The ball is rolling...." Towards what?

What message are the parents, teachers and DCs united on? Because there's no unity on this thread - every parent has their own personal reasons for taking part.

Action on Tues will do nothing more than confirm that parents and teachers are unhappy - but there is no clarity as to what they are unhappy about - which makes it no easier for government to address than a crying toddler who can't say what is wrong.

Hulababy · 30/04/2016 08:39

You simply can't compare a teenager sitting GCSEs and a 7y sitting SATs.

Teenagers and 7ys are very different in maturity and capabilities.
GCSEs are for the benefit of the individual child. They make a difference to the child's own future. SATs don't.
And if a child doesn't do GCSEs for some reason it doesn't achieve as well as they want - emphasise on they) they can resist it do them another time. They are not only restricted to 15/16y at one exact moment in time.

Rosebud05 · 30/04/2016 08:51

time, if you're honestly unclear what parents, teachers heads, teaching staff and plenty of other groups involved in education/supporting children are unhappy about, then do read this thread and the national newspapers properly rather than trying to stonewall.

TimeforaNNChange · 30/04/2016 08:56

rosebud I am reading the thread, and the media, and other websites.

I'm not stonewalling when I say there is no single issue being objected to by parents and teachers.

If it's so simple, why not just set it out rather than criticise me?

shoesSHOES · 30/04/2016 09:11

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MrsKCastle · 30/04/2016 09:38

I'm not sure there needs to be one single focus for the strike. I think it's enough for parents to be saying 'We're not happy with the state of education at the moment'. There are several issues to set out:
The overambitious primary curriculum
The catalogue of errors with the tests this year
The changes to the tests this year (and the fact that they're not fit for purpose- they are supposed to support teachers in making a judgement, but they're completely different to the things we have to assess)
Forced academisation

Personally, I haven't heard of any discussion of the strike amongst the parents at my school. But I would be overjoyed if only half my class turned up on Tuesday. I know that my parents aren't happy about all the changes but we all have an attitude of 'well we just have to get on with it'. I'd love to see a strong message being sent to the government, even if the main message is ' as parents, we're not happy.'

rollonthesummer · 30/04/2016 09:42

A letter by someone called Rachel Smith I saw on Facebook this morning...

My letter to Nicky Morgan - sent!

Dear Nicky Morgan

I was dreading the session at my son’s primary school about maths and SATS. I was surprised.

We watched children working interactively, working on the floor with concrete objects, working in groups, being encouraged and given time to think, puzzling out different ways of approaching the same problem and succeeding. For the first time in years I had fun working out a maths problem around their topic, the Second World War - using rationing to look at fractions. Then we watched a government video about the tick box exercise that is the new SATS. One parent fell asleep. Others shook their heads in wonder at the contrast.

It’s baffling to us parents. We’ve read the research, that play based learning is most effective, see the results from countries such as Finland, where they don’t test like this or give hours of homework, where they allow the child to lead. We can’t understand why you ignore the experts (the teachers) and the evidence before you.

I love my child’s primary school. I have seen both sons emerge full of talk and amazing facts about their work on the Russian space station, their role-play about air raids. I’ve learnt so much from them. I’ve seen their natural curiosity about the world nurtured and encouraged. And yet with the introduction of these ‘more challenging’ SATS I have seen a dramatic change in my eleven year old. He has had trouble sleeping. He has appeared tired and stressed, teary, on the edge emotionally, full of worries about not being ‘good enough.’ He’s well aware that if he doesn’t pass he will have to retake in Year 7, at secondary school. He knows that he’ll be marked down if he doesn’t use semi-colons correctly, no matter how wildly imaginative his piece of writing is. Activities he has previously loved have been affected. He’s become worried about not being fast enough in swimming, scared of tackling more difficult piano pieces, worrying about not being good enough at climbing. Only this year, since the focus on SATS papers have I seen this self-doubt, seen his confidence ebb, and it breaks my heart.

The truth is he will probably pass without problem, because he happens to have the kind of mind that retains facts. He has an almost photographic memory, lucky him. Looking at the practice papers, I wonder what about the kids that don’t happen to have that sort of mind? Children are not all the same. A friend’s bright sparky child is able to memorise the spelling test in order to pass that particular week, but can’t retain the tricky words beyond that (she also happens to be a brilliant dancer and gymnast, but I guess you don’t value this so much). Or what about another friend, whose son is brilliant both at sport and at model making, but struggles with these tests? Is it right that he’s now worrying (at eleven) about what sort of job he’ll get later? Is it right that my son is putting such pressure on himself at such a tender age?

Personally I struggle to answer much of your English paper. I don’t understand the grammar questions. I have no idea what a fronted adverbial is, for example. It’s odd, because I’m not totally daft, and incidentally I make my living through writing. I know that my editor won’t be looking for how I’ve used semi-colons. She’ll hope to be swept along by my passion and imagination and the world I’ve painted with words, the atmosphere I’ve created. The way I’ve built to climatic action. The way the story unfolds. She’ll be hoping I’ve taken risks, even if they don’t all pay off. That’s what she’s paying me for, after all. Shouldn’t we be encouraging our children to do likewise, to live and breathe language, to take risks boldly rather than learn what a fronted adverbial is, or identify the ‘passive voice’ in a dull passage of writing? ‘Everyone gets scared about the spelling - they’re scared of spelling words wrong, so they just don’t use tricky words.’ So says my son.

Even if you don’t make a living by writing (I’m aware you think that arts subjects ‘limit’ people, Nicky), being able to argue a point and express yourself in written and verbal form is undeniably useful across all sectors - and I don’t believe you’ll get the sack if you can’t identify a preposition in an email. Business leaders value employees that can approach problems from a different angle, those capable of independent thought - rather than those that can merely memorise a bunch of facts. I know this because I’ve also worked in corporate training. Did you know that countless companies (banks, insurance companies and the like) employ creative types (like me) to teach grown-ups how to think deeper, to work in teams more effectively, to listen better, to empathise with others, to work through difficult situations? These are skills for life, whatever your profession. This is the work I see happening in a playful way in our lovely primary school, and it is in direct opposition to your approach to education.

Maybe you still think teachers are simply being ‘negative.’ Maybe you don’t care that they are leaving the profession in droves in despair at this sterile, joyless way of cramming facts into young children. Maybe you think all these worried parents are overreacting. I received a government response from a petition I signed against the new testing regime. One section began ‘The government makes no apology for setting high aspirations for all children...”

Do you however make an apology for your policies affecting the mental health and wellbeing of our children? For children deciding they are ‘failures’ at six or eleven? For children deciding that only one sort of narrow intelligence is good enough? For children who have previously loved school becoming bored, anxious and disengaged? For young children becoming so stressed that their sleep is affected?

I think perhaps you should.

Yours sincerely

Rachel Smith

Rosebud05 · 30/04/2016 09:45

Because the multiple issues involved have been set out time. Lots of times actually for many months now.

If you can't/won't grasp them, then I can't help you with that, I'm afraid.

shoes, if you don't want or can't be involved in striking on Tuesday then don't. For various reasons, I won't be either, but I do fully support this action.

shoesSHOES · 30/04/2016 10:06

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