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SAT maths tests and levels...confused.

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Flutterbutterfly · 24/10/2015 19:18

If a child scores 75% on a key stage one maths paper what level would this translate to?

My previous child has levels... I understood levels. Now we're faced with what look like names for levels?l
Emerging/ expected/secure/exceptional etc. < are these just the levels?

He that makes sense.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 24/10/2015 20:42

And yes the tests were marked and given a level but that level was disregarded if it didn't match with teacher assessment from classwork.

Finola1step · 24/10/2015 21:20

mrz you are absolutely right about my previous post. That's why I made it very clear to treat those thoughts with caution.

There really is no clear correlation. But many people will continue to look for a correlation nonetheless. But a 7 year old will always be a 7 year old. The first bunch of Year 2s I taught in 1996 weren't much different to my son's Year 2 cohort last year.

I am interested though in what the OP is using to get this 75% figure. Is it a sample paper?

OddBoots · 24/10/2015 21:31

It sounds like trying to work out these likely results is like trying to predict what song will be number 1 in the charts next May by looking at what was in the charts last May.

Racundra · 24/10/2015 21:34

Don't all school use their own internal assessment schemes now, so there is no comparison between what one school does and what another does?
Have they re-introduced actual testing for Y2s? As in, sitting externally moderated papers?

mrz · 24/10/2015 21:37

Yes Flutterbutterfly all those papers and the results weren't even reported. The tests could be administered at any stage of the year as part if ongoing assessment. They are simply a very crude snapshot of what a child could do on that particular day when faced with that particular set of questions ... The percentage isn't useful but the questions tell the teacher what they need to teach.

Finola1step · 24/10/2015 21:39

I have a question Flutter. Are you testing your dc at home in an attempt to compare his or her score with the levels given to an older child at the same age?

If so, there's no point because the curriculum has changed.

mrz · 24/10/2015 21:40

We were talking yesterday about the first tests and how many children left KS1 already assessed as level 5 ...

mrz · 24/10/2015 21:42

No one would say well done you got 75% because that isn't how the papers are marked ... No percentages then or now!

mrz · 24/10/2015 21:46

Racundra the tests will be internally marked (although there is some discussion whether they should be externally marked and they have to be completed in pen or black pencil then same as KS2 for scanning )
The you tube link I posted is a DfE official explains what's happening.

Racundra · 24/10/2015 22:21

Thank you mrs. Sorry- I never automatically click on videos! Smile will look now.

rosesarered9 · 26/10/2015 22:32

What year is the paper from? www.sats-papers.co.uk/ You can download the level thresholds for the 2003 and 2004 papers. They don't make KS1 NC assessments anymore, but teachers have to assess children and most of the time use old papers. Just ask the school fgs. NC levels don't exist BTW. As mrz said, 75% is meaningless. "Its a new paper" It can't be!

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