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English reading for child educated in Welsh

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DisappointedOne · 24/10/2015 12:17

DD is 5 and in Derbyn at a Welsh medium
Primary school. She did a full time nursery year and is absolutely flying with Welsh fluency and reading in Welsh. She's
Wanting to read in English at home, and I'm wondering the best way to go about it. The school doesn't support any English until age 7 so won't/can't suggest books that might be suitable.

She has a good grasp of Welsh phonics and blended sounds but obviously some letters are sounded differently in English.

Can any Welsh teachers/parents help with suggestions?

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LittleMissGreen · 25/10/2015 12:53

Hmm I wrote an answer to this a couple of days ago but it seems to have disappeared. My boys are educated in English in Wales so have had to start learning to read in Welsh at same time as having to learn in English. They have been taught the Welsh phonemes separately from the English and don't often confuse the two despite us not speaking much Welsh as a family. They used the Floppy Phonics books for first English reading but any phonics scheme would work. I think Mrz who is a phonics teacher guru would recommend dandelion readers. Don't go down the look and say route from the old Oxford reading tree series.

longdiling · 25/10/2015 16:40

I have to be honest, I just took a really casual approach with my lot. I'd get some reading books from the library or just let them read a book that they chose and I taught them the English phonics as we went along - sh makes a sh sound, if you see 2 'e's then it makes an ee sound etc etc. I didn't formally teach them all the phonemes and stuff before I allowed them to read in English like you would perhaps expect in an English school. My littlest will sometimes read ll with the welsh pronounciation but generally she doesn't mix them up and is picking up the English well. They absolutely fly through it when they start the English reading at age 7. My eldest two were on the same reading level in English as Welsh almost straight away.

DisappointedOne · 25/10/2015 20:29

Thank you. A friend with a. Slightly older child said there was lots of "kinderella" (as "c" in Welsh sounds like "k" in English) when her daughter started on English reading. I wanted something simple for DD to choose read - not necessarily right at the beginning but also not so complex that she'll struggle too much. She's pretty competent with reading and writing in English in other scenarios and spelling English words out etc. It's supporting rather than forcing I'm interested in.

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mrz · 25/10/2015 21:00

Just explain the spellings/letters can be different sounds and c can be /k/ but it can also be /s/ try /k/ first and then /s/ ...

You can do that with any new sounds she meets in English language books ...fill in the missing phonic knowledge.

LittleMissGreen · 26/10/2015 10:48

Ah ok, maybe some of the simpler 'early readers'? Or there are online books at oxford owl which could give an idea of her English reading level.

auntyclot · 26/10/2015 21:34

My dd learnt to read in English at home before she started a Welsh school. We found that she could automatically read Welsh because she knew the mechanics of reading, blending, etc. Her readsing surpassed her comprehension of Welsh for a while. When she encountered a letter that made a different sound, we just reminded her and she picked it up very quickly. Then her understanding caught up and by teh end of Derbyn she was reading both languages fluently. English might take slightly longer to pick up as Welsh is more phonetic but she will get there. My frien ds whose children learnt to read in Welsh first all say that English reading just happened.

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