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How do you sound these phonic sounds

29 replies

Pantone363 · 09/09/2015 16:33

i-e example says five

o-e example says stone

u-e example says tune

a-e example is snake

e-e example is these

Am I just being really dense?!

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Alibabsandthe40Musketeers · 09/09/2015 16:37

They are one sound.

Hard to write but

i-e - pronouced

o-e - pronounced

u-e pronounced

etc

Does that help?

TeenAndTween · 09/09/2015 16:37

eye
owe
you
ay
ee

But do you mean how you help a child when sounding out to look at the e at the end and use it to change the vowel sound? I would use a pencil to point out with a kind of loopy joining movement, then back to the letter in the middle.

blardynamechanger · 09/09/2015 16:38

so a-e would be aye?

DriverSurpriseMe · 09/09/2015 16:38

I'm guessing i-e means you pronounce the i as "eye" and not "ih" as in igloo.

Then a long "oh" (and not a short O as in orange)
Then "you" (not "uh" as in umbrella)
And so on.

I don't have a school age child so I don't know the official rules, that's just my educated guess Smile

Pantone363 · 09/09/2015 16:40

ahhhhhh ok!

so they are asking for the first sound when its followed by the next sound?

Y1 phonics dd has just brought home!

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fieldfare · 09/09/2015 16:42

When you have a vowel, consonant, vowel configuration in a word, the vowel sound is the letter name, not the letter sound.
So i sounds like eye, not ih
A sounds like aye not ah

DriverSurpriseMe · 09/09/2015 16:44

Actually, I know what it is! It's what I was taught as the Magic E in the olden days. Remember Look & Read on telly in the 80s? I bet the song is on YouTube.

DriverSurpriseMe · 09/09/2015 16:46

Hooray!

KittyandTeal · 09/09/2015 16:50

They're split digraphs. The 'e' on the end makes the letter it's joined to (the vowel) say it's name (as in the alphabet name) not its sound (the phoneme)

Hope that makes sense?

TeenAndTween · 09/09/2015 16:50

It's called a split digraph(?).

It is 'one sound two letters' (I think)
(though that could be just things like 'oa' and 'sh' )

(DD2 now y6, I have't listened to infants for 3 years now so a bit rusty)

Pantone363 · 09/09/2015 18:15

Thanks, think i've got it now!

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mrz · 09/09/2015 18:23

Please don't go down the magic e route as it doesn't match with current teaching methods.

The easy way to work it out is to say the word and listen to the sounds you can hear.

Five = /f/ /ie/ /v/
Stone = /s/ /t/ /oe/ /n/
Snake = /s/ /n/ /ai/ /k/
These = /th/ /ee/ /z/
Tune = /t/ /yoo/ /n/

In English we have 44 speech sounds (depending on accent) and only 26 letters in our alphabet so we use a combination of letters to represent some sounds.
A sound can be represented by one, two, three or four letters and one sound can have different spellings so tie high fly find line etc

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 09/09/2015 18:26

The e changes the a from a phonetic a to the capital A sound ... as do all the others.

Doublebubblebubble · 09/09/2015 18:37

I was going to say look up the magic e. I hate trying to teach phonics (back in my day - I'm 28 - I had to learn whole words... Anyway) apparently the e gives the vowel before it all of its "power" making A instead of A . I hate phonics!!!!!

Doublebubblebubble · 09/09/2015 18:38

Mrz is this a new new thing. My DD has only just gone into year 1 and in year r she was taught magic e.... Confoosed x

spanieleyes · 09/09/2015 18:39

There is no such thing as a "capital sound". You would not change the sound of the letter a in apple or Apple just because one is a capital and one is a lower case!

mrz · 09/09/2015 18:58

No it's not a new thing ...??

mrz · 09/09/2015 19:07

If your name is Adam or Alison you have a capital A but it represents the sound /a/ as in apple not /ai/ as in apricot.

Ferguson · 09/09/2015 19:36

This book will help you, and your child, and is easy and enjoyable to use:

An inexpensive and easy to use book, that can encourage children with reading, spelling and writing, and really help them to understand Phonics, is reviewed in the MN Book Reviews section. Just search ??Phonics?? and my name.

BeBesideTheSea · 09/09/2015 19:39

Oh no! I understand Magic E. What am I meant to use to explain it instead (it makes so much sense)?

Pantone363 · 09/09/2015 20:24

Thanks all, I've got it. DD is looking like me like I'm a loon though

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Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 09/09/2015 20:28

Capital A as in how you say the alphabet A B C D E ... not how you would say. a b c d ... of coarse you dont change sound because a word has a capital ...

mrz · 09/09/2015 20:31

So if the alphabet is written a b c d e f g you would say it differently ?

mrz · 09/09/2015 20:37

Children are taught that ae represents the sound /ai/ but in name the spelling is split by another sound.

E isn't magic nor does it change the sound of a letter have, give ...?

mrz · 09/09/2015 20:39

Sally a capital letter is A a lower case letter is a they both represent the same sounds and have the same letter name in the alphabet.