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Class sizes. Quick question please.

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Goshthatsspicy · 28/08/2015 13:39

Just wondering what year the class sizes can become more flexible?
Is it three?
Thank you all.

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MimsyBorogroves · 28/08/2015 13:42

Yes, I think the pupil allocation number usually rises at key stage 2 (year 3) by a few pupils.

Goshthatsspicy · 28/08/2015 13:45

Thank you Mimsy :)

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admission · 28/08/2015 17:14

There are two sometimes competing issues here. First is the planned admission number (PAN) of the school. This is a figure derived from a calculation about how many pupils the school can hold. This PAN in England (Wales is slightly different) is set for each year group as they enter the school. So in a primary school the PAN maybe 30 and it will continue all the way through the school - it does not normally change as you go through the year groups, though where there is a local infant school, it can lead to a change at junior level.
The other competing issue is the Infant Class Size Regulations which limit class sizes in infant (reception, year 1 and year 2) to 30 pupils per qualified school teacher. This is why so many primary schools have a PAN that is 30 or a multiple of 30. Whilst this limits infant classes to 30 there are some exemptions that can happen.
The infant class size regs also by exception in effect means that there is no maximum class size in year 3 and above. Whilst the PAN if it is 30 to some extent also limits the class size to 30, the admission regulations are very clear that it is permitted to exceed the PAN as long as it is not then breaking the infant class size regs. That is why some schools, habitually now admit 2 or 3 more when it comes to year 3, not because the PAN goes up but because the school can and they get funding for each pupil. However many schools still stick with the PAN level and will insist that any parent wanting a place in the school goes to an admission appeal.
In terms of admission appeals at infant class level, the number of successful appeals is very low but at junior level it is higher, though it is for the appeal panel to decide whether the class can accommodate a higher level of pupils.

Goshthatsspicy · 28/08/2015 18:41

Thank you admission that was really informative.
I'm hoping to get my daughter in for yr2, but the school l'm thinking about is full.
It won't be for a few months, so, l'm thinking l could home school for a term next year possibly? Go on a waiting list. I don't know... Lots of ideas in my head at the moment. Thanks again. Smile

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