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URGENT - Special case threatens to take my childs spot

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Mamabear12 · 03/07/2015 10:59

Okay, well the special case has already taken her spot! Basically, we are number 1 on waiting list and my friend just declined her sons spot. I called the school and now they have told me, they were already over suscribed due to a special case, which I am PISSED about. What constitutes as a special case? If they already allowed 1 spot over, cant they just squeeze my daughter in? I am beyond annoyed right now. Sorry for the rant, I am just really upset, as been stressing the last two months! Anything I can do?? I knew this would happen. I am so FRUSTRATED!!!! Any advice? I know people can fight these things.

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milkysmum · 03/07/2015 12:38

Why would you only put one school on the application? Surely you would pick at least another one as second choice that you would be happy with?

prh47bridge · 03/07/2015 12:39

Are we talking about a place in Reception or a place in nursery? Most of the responses assume you are talking about Reception but your latest message suggests you are actually talking about nursery where the rules are different.

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Mamabear12 · 03/07/2015 12:39

Perhaps I am wrong, I have only heard from others that this has taken place at other schools and I have read in past posts on mumsnet about someone doing this. Again, it could be wrong and NEVER happened...I have only read/heard stories....and not about this school...other schools. I was only saying, I am hoping this is not the case in this situation. So no need to be rude saying im talking shit...

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thatsshallot · 03/07/2015 12:40

I am afraid you are doing yourself no favours with no other choices, we were told it would not help us at all (we used all ours btw and still got no places but then offered a school within a month and we'd been 13 on the list).

You must engage with the process rather than cast wild aspersions and be stubborn, ultimately your child needs an education and you are not ensuring this

Heels99 · 03/07/2015 12:40

Op you are talkin absolut rubbish that someone has got in by donating money etc. If you really are deluded enough to believe that then appeal.

MaggieJoyBlunt · 03/07/2015 12:44

now the case someone else has wormed their way in and taken my childs spot!

It is known that people can find other ways to get in...by donating money, knowing someone on the inside etc. That is what I meant by worming their way in.

Bollocks. It is NOT 'known' at all. Nobody has 'wormed'.

You are throwing a tantrum. You sound irrational and unpleasant.

Try to calm down and gain some perspective.

Perhaps reflect for a moment on how lucky you are that your child has no need of 'special' admission consideration?

bookwormbeagle · 03/07/2015 12:44

When you mention nursery spot in your pp do you mean that your child currently attends the nursery/preschool and will be starting reception in September?

Also what have the LEA said, have they offered a place anywhere else?

PerspicaciaTick · 03/07/2015 12:45

OK - I thought I understood the OP, but am now completely confused.

I have never read an admissions post on MN in which someone is sadi to have successfully faked a "special case" which gets their child a place over the ICS criteria. Nor have I heard of this in RL.

But if you are talking about nurseries, then that is a whole different situation. Is it a nursery attached to a school? Or a private nursery?

Finola1step · 03/07/2015 12:45

The school place was never your child's. The school has had to admit one extra child due to their significant special circumstances. Now that other patents have declined one of the other offers, the school can revert to its original number. Your child will simply remain in the waiting list.

Finola1step · 03/07/2015 12:46

On not in

milkysmum · 03/07/2015 12:46

I don't think anyone was meaning to be rude it just seems a little odd that you wouldn't have put any other choices on your application. It think you really do need to try and get yourself in a more rationale head space over this though if you can

Heels99 · 03/07/2015 12:47

Its nursery not reception

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Mamabear12 · 03/07/2015 12:49

Thanks everyone for your responses, I have calmed down now. I was just frustrated.

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KohINoorPencil · 03/07/2015 12:49

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bookwormbeagle · 03/07/2015 12:53

Hope you get it sorted Mama, FWIW when you do need to apply for a place in reception next year make sure you use all of the available choices on your application. I'd have been having kittens by pinning my hopes on just one school

MaggieJoyBlunt · 03/07/2015 12:53

If it's nursery, it's not such an enormous issue. There will be movement in the lists, before or after September and besides, there are lots of nurseries.

Play it down to your DD. If you get so het up, she will too.

Fizrim · 03/07/2015 12:53

All this ranting over a nursery place? And she's only ever been on the waiting list, you just thought you'd get in because one of your friends had an allocated place that she was going to decline?

It would make more sense if it was a nursery place as if it was for reception then a school would have been allocated anyway, no matter what you put on the form.

Hersetta427 · 03/07/2015 13:02

Just be aware that if you didn't get a place for nursery then it is more than likely that you won't get a reception place due to all the additional children applying for reception (who live closer to the school than you) who were placed in full time private nursery's as their parents work full time.

Just make sure you include more than one school on the reception application. Better a near school you don't like, than a school you don't like but is 3 miles away.

Frozennana · 03/07/2015 13:17

the social care could be a twin / multiple. Annoying but there is still time. 4 pupils left our massively oversubscribed reception year (two classes) during this year.

christinarossetti · 03/07/2015 13:18

OP is talking about a nursery place. She only applied to one nursery (from what she said), and won't have been offered an alternative automatically as it's not reception.

OP, if you want you child to start a school nursery in September, then call around now and see which ones have places. It's pretty late in the school year to arrange visits, but they may be able to show you around. You're pretty likely to get a place in your chosen nursery at some point though, as you're obviously high up the waiting list.

And, presuming that your child is due to start reception in Sept 2016, please don't use the same strategy of only applying to one school when you make the application. Use all of the number of preferences allowed and make sure that you, if possible, put at least one school that your child will be allocated a place at and is acceptable to you in terms of travelling etc in cse you don't meet the criteria for your preferred school(s).

DeeWe · 03/07/2015 13:26

Look, I know someone who was in that other dc's shoes.

They had a reception place. Very pleased with their place, child very excited about going there, two young babies. Round about May there was a traumatic incident which involved them fleeing their home in the middle of the night, leaving behind everything. They ended up living with another family member near us, under witness protction programme.
That was a small 3 bed house, already 3 adults living in, adding a family with 3 small children. Not ideal really, and very hard for all concerned.

They got put to the top of the waiting list for obvious reasons. Exceptional circumstances, I think they counted as. But actually knowing where she was living she probably would have moved to that on distance as well, so assuming there wasn't a sibling above her she would have been top anyway.

Now I knew a different friend who had also a dc starting that year was just waiting for confirmation that they were moving away. They actually gave notice at the middle of June, about a week after the first people had been put on the waiting list. Although I knew she'd declined it it still took about 3 weeks before the other people were offered it.

So there could have been someone who thought they were top of the waiting list, knew this family was moving away, and assumed they would get it.
They might have been pretty annoyed to find they didn't. But the family that had got it would have much rather gone to the original place and not had the trauma in their life of the sudden uprooting and all the issues it caused.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 03/07/2015 13:34

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christinarossetti · 03/07/2015 14:20

Op is talking about a nursery place, not reception.

Floggingmolly · 03/07/2015 14:24

It wasn't your child's place... Waiting lists are completely fluid, and, at the critical moment, someone else's child who more closely fitted the criteria moved ahead of you. It happens all the time and I very much doubt it's grounds for appeal.

downgraded · 03/07/2015 14:28

It's nursery? Wow, can't she just go to a different one?

Oh and I agree - schools follow rules. There will have been a good reason for someone to be let in when classes were already full.

You need to calm down.

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