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Science specialist telling pupils god made the sun...

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thinkingmakesitso · 17/05/2015 23:00

The teacher in question is one half of a job-share in Y1 (ds2's class) but is also the whole-school science specialist. I am very unhappy about ds 2 now insisting that god made everything and stating, very clearly, that it is this teacher who told him that, in the context of learning that the sun is a star, is made of gases, is very hot etc etc. I don't feel that religion should be brought into science lessons, or should ever be reported as fact.

Opinions or other experiences would be great - I feel I need to raise it at school.

OP posts:
soapboxqueen · 18/05/2015 20:44

It is not God clapping it is the giant in the sky moving his furniture around. That is a true fact because my mammy told me so Grin

HayFeverHell · 18/05/2015 20:47

I was told it was the "angels bowling." Smile

Reekypear · 18/05/2015 22:38

Science has to be able to be demonstrated to be a fact.....evidence has to be provable.......so who has recreated the Big Bang......and billions of years of devolution to make it demonstrable, it might suck but evolution is still a theory.

opalfire · 19/05/2015 22:57

DD came home in year 1 and told me I was wrong about rainbows and the sun / rain. Her teacher had said that rainbows came along when God was happy! We had a quick trip to the science museum!

HowDoesThatWork · 20/05/2015 01:10

The phenomenon of evolution is a fact, like the phenomenon of gravity is a fact.

The explanations for these phenomena are theories and are open to disproof. That is how it goes.

TheNewStatesman · 20/05/2015 03:59

Cannot understand why PUBLIC MONEY gets spent on schools teaching unscientific bullshit.

Coyoacan · 20/05/2015 05:13

My brother is a physicist and believes that God made the sun. As someone else said, the big bang theory is only a theory.

Greaterthanthesumoftheparts · 20/05/2015 05:42

Yep sorry, no facts in science, someone has an idea, creates a hypothesis and designs experiments to test that hypothesis, sometimes it is easy to design an experiment sometimes it extremely difficult t recreate the exact scenario. Therefore any evidence discovered during the experiment either offers support for or against the hypothesis, not proof that the hypothesis is correct. In most cases scientists use null hypotheses to try to find evidence that the opposite of their idea can't be true rather than trying to find evidence that their actual hypothesis is true. So for evolution for example Darwin made some hypotheses about how the fittest individuals of a species have traits which are advantageous and therefore have a reproductive advantage. Could he test this theory on species that are already extinct, of course not. Experiments on organisms with short generation times (such as fruit fly) show that in certain conditions some members of the community survive better than others and go in to reproduce, others with less suitable characteristics die out. However a fruit fly is very much less complex than an early homosapien so how far can we extrapolate the results? Additionally there at which huge gaps in the fossil record so although fossils provide some evidence of evolution they are quite far from the full picture. So we have a theory and we have some evidence in support of this theory but those that think that we can say that science gives us the full picture are just as mistaken as those who think we can merely say that 'God created the sun' (for conpte disclosure I am a Christian scientist).

Saltedpeanuts · 20/05/2015 08:25

We live in a pretty unreligious country. Yet many of our children appear to be being taught by evangelical Christians who are free to teach their beliefs to our kids as fact. That is wrong.

Heels99 · 20/05/2015 08:27

Yes I would raise it at school.

worldgonecrazy · 20/05/2015 08:34

What a great opportunity to teach your son the lesson that teachers are not always right and can be challenged and questioned when they start spouting bollocks. It's an important life lesson, and, in the big scheme of things, probably actually more important than an in depth lesson on TBB, which I'm guessing many of us would flounder at putting into language understandable by a young child.

(If anyone has any ideas please share them - concepts such as infinity and everything being made of energy are hard enough for an adult to get their head round!)

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