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Tigsley2 · 30/04/2015 12:31

Hi,

I've just put an appeal in for DD's junior school place. The paper work said 20 days to put the appeal in (we are under that as it is working days - and 'finishes' on 15th May)..

But it says - 40 days for the appeal to be heard .. is that 40 days from the 15th - or 40 days from when we put the appeal in?

I hate having things hanging over me :(

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findingschools · 30/04/2015 12:41

You should receive a letter from the admissions authority at least 10 school days before the hearing date. Provided you are not a late applicant, your appeal for a primary school or sixth-form place must be heard within 40 days of the appeal being lodged - or before the end of the summer term, if that is sooner. - See more at: www.goodschoolsguide.co.uk/help-and-advice/choosing-a-school/appealing-for-a-school-place

Eddas · 30/04/2015 13:18

my understanding is 40 days from the deadline. if it works the same as secondary appeals. The secondary appeals i've just sent get sent to the schools, they collate them and send them together to KCC, so they must wait til they have passed the deadline to send them all at once?

Appealing is scary, time consuming and worrying, but i'm trying not to panic! Try and forget it for a while once it's submitted. I got one of my appeal dates quite quickly after the deadline, which I was suprised about. I'm still waiting for the other one, everyday I check the post box hoping to find a brown envelope!!

findingschools · 30/04/2015 13:39

Don't panic - just get some knowledge and remain on top of the paperwork and get a copy of The School Admissions Appeals Code of Practice.

Here's some really good advice on grounds for appeal

Places at a school can be granted on appeal in two circumstances: 1) When a school has applied its admissions procedures incorrectly (rare as hens’ teeth), or 2) When the harm done to your child by not getting a place there will be greater than that caused to all the other children by overcrowding (particularly difficult to prove at infant level where class sizes are limited by law to 30).

Check the school website for admissions procedure: to win a case under point 1 you would need to show, for example, that the school gives priority to siblings, but your child was not awarded a place despite having an elder sibling at the school. In reality, it is very rare for a school to make this kind of mistake.

So you are more likely to be appealing on the grounds of potential harm to your child. You need to consider:

Are there reasons for the school you want based on religion or difficult family circumstances?
Can the school you’ve been offered cater for any special need or health issue your child has? Health matters need to be significant, and not common ailments. ‘Plenty of people have asthma and get on perfectly well day to day,’ an appeal panel member told us.
In appeals for selective schools, what are the academic attainments at the school you’ve been offered? Do reasonable numbers stay in the sixth form and go on to university, if this is what your child wants and her own academic record would suggest this is likely? If not, you could argue that this school will not enable her to reach her full potential.
Can he/she keep up an instrument or sport they excel at here? Does your child have a particular aptitude in the school’s specialism?
Is transport to the school you’ve been offered impossible (but bear in mind that many 11 year-olds have a one hour bus journey to school. Check the uniforms of children standing at your nearest bus stop – if others already make the same journey, you will have no grounds). But a journey requiring three changes, and the potential for your child to be stranded if he misses a connection, could be considered unreasonable.
Does the school you want offer a language which the unpopular one doesn’t, and do you have very strong reasons for your child studying it? (Saying ‘Popular school offers Chinese; my child’s maternal family are Chinese and she would like to be able to communicate with them when we visit’ would be good grounds. Saying ‘He’s always been interested in China and asked me to teach him some Chinese letters when he was four’ would not.)
Emotional reasons can be considered with strong evidence. Don’t rely on ‘sensitive’. ‘All children are sensitive,’ one appeal panel member told us. But perhaps your daughter has been bullied by a trio of girls who are going on to the school you’ve been offered, and she really needs a fresh start.

Concentrate on education and well-being arguments. The number of brownie badges your daughter has, or the fact that your son always helps old ladies across the road, is not relevant; they won’t win an appeal for being very nice. Don’t denigrate the school you have been offered: you are appealing for a school place, not against one.

In all instances, remember that you have to show an exceptional case – at some schools, only one or two appeals may be successful. And keep it truthful, because you will be questioned at the hearing.

prh47bridge · 30/04/2015 13:59

For appeals relating to the normal admissions round the appeal must be heard within 40 school days from the deadline for lodging appeals. Note that this deadline is expressed in school days, NOT working days, so school holidays don't count.

Some of the advice that findingschools has copied from an external website is ok, some of it is poor.

The vast majority of primary school appeals are infant class size cases. That means they can only be won if:

  • the admission arrangements do not comply with the Admissions Code
  • the admission arrangements have not been implemented correctly
  • the decision to refuse admission was unreasonable

Mistakes are more common than the previous post seems to imply.

The rest of the post about "potential harm to your child" is only relevant if yours is not an infant class size case. Even then it is not necessarily true that you have to show an exceptional case. Sometimes the case to refuse admission is so weak that any appeal will win.

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