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Phonics - year 1

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BingBong36 · 17/04/2015 07:07

Hi all,

My 6 year old is struggling a bit with phonics in year one and forgetting all of the sounds, so for example if there was the word 'grout' he would struggle to read that even tho he would know the sound 'out' on it's own. Am I making sense?

How can I help ensure he uses the sounds to word works out?

Can anyone recommend anything I can put onto the iPad or any work books? I think if I work on this his reading will really progress.

Thank you

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mrz · 17/04/2015 07:23

Im afraid "out" isn't a sound the sounds in shout are

He needs to recognise the different spellings for the sounds and apply that knowledge

Hard to say what his difficulty us from your post.

BingBong36 · 17/04/2015 07:28

Oops sorry , yes I meant sounds 2-3 letters he knows how to sound out single letters.

The teacher said she thought he may have has a slight hearing issue as he finds phonics tricky, but his ears are fine.

I just would like to support him at home with phonics so wondered if there are any good books, apps, etc?

Thanks

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mrz · 17/04/2015 07:48

I would suggest covering the word and revealing it sound by sound so he builds as he goes.

mrz · 17/04/2015 07:56

If he is fine with one letter one sound it is unlikely that he has a problem hearing the sounds (apparently he can hear these sounds?)

Do you know which programme the school uses to teach phonics?

Mashabell · 17/04/2015 11:05

Is his problem with basic phonics, i.e. the main sounds of the 82 most used English spellings, or is he getting confused by the alternative pronunciations for some of them,
e.g. shout out loud ... but also double, trouble ... group, soup...?

The irregular sounds in some of the most used words,
such as 'any, many, father... you, young... there, were'
can be very troubling for some children.

PopTarts · 17/04/2015 11:14

Hi op, try the sound-write app for iPad. Have a look on their website too.
It was recommended to me on here and I think it's brill for my year1 dd.

The first part is free and costs only £2 something to unlock all parts.

mrz · 17/04/2015 16:29

The Sounds~Write app is excellent but it teaches the initial code one letter spelling for the sounds not vowel digraphs.

mrz · 17/04/2015 16:30

Masha I'm afraid nobody teaches phonics that way!

BingBong36 · 17/04/2015 19:16

Thank you for all of your replies, i will look at the app as well as covering the word to reveal the sound... I need to learn a few more of them myself first!

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Hopeful83 · 17/04/2015 19:34

Look on phonicsplay.co.uk. There are free games as well as ones you can pay for. For a rough guide, phase 2 and 3 are reception level, phase 4 is reception and year 1 and phase 5 and 6 are year 1. We use them in my school

Ferguson · 17/04/2015 19:51

Well, well, what d'you know; here's most of the 'old firm' back in the new term! Just maizieD missing! [Sorry, OP, 'in joke' by the 'phonics team']

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An inexpensive and easy to use book, that can encourage children with reading, spelling and writing, and really help them to understand Phonics, is reviewed in the MN Book Reviews section. Just search ‘Phonics’.

I'll look back, and see how DS gets on.

[I'll probably get 'told off' by someone as well.]

catkind · 17/04/2015 20:21

What exactly goes wrong? Is he not identifying ou as a digraph, or not knowing any correspondences for it, or picking the wrong correspondence, or is he just trying to guess whole words or something? We found writing down any tricky words and getting DS to underline the individual sounds a useful strategy to get him thinking about the phonics.

If it's digraphs/trigraphs generally, you might find the second "teach your monster to read" game helpful (it's free), though it only covers one spelling per sound and doesn't cover "ou" in particular.
www.teachyourmonstertoread.com/how-it-works/whatdoeseachgamecover

mrz · 17/04/2015 20:25

The Sounds Write app covers the sounds a,I,m,s,t,n,o,p,b,c,g,h,d,v,f,e,k,l,u,r,j,w,z,x,y,ff,ss,zz,ll, sh,ch,th,ck,wh,ng,qu - reception year

BingBong36 · 17/04/2015 21:01

Thank you

The teacher mentioned that he finds sounds hard (not single letters) and because he has good vocabulary , confident etc she expected him to find it easy so wondered if he had a hearing issue (which he doesn't) .. He then learnt all of the sounds but doesn't recognise them in a words so when sounding out he doesn't sound put correctly.

So an example would be 'aim' he would say a, i, m, but wouldn't recognise that 'ai' is the sound that he should use.

I hope I am making sense, I need to get him to recognise those sounds within a word.

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BingBong36 · 17/04/2015 21:02

I will try and find that book suggested, thanks

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catkind · 17/04/2015 21:17

Ah, so he does know the correspondences, just doesn't spot them in words. Ignore TYMTR suggestion then, that's more for learning the correspondences.

But that is exactly where the underlining thing helped DS - maybe give that a try?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 17/04/2015 21:23

Underlining or circling would probably help. As might sorting words with different spellings. This is possibly an issue with recognition. Recognising a digraph in isolation is easier than spotting it in the middle of a word. Children often need to know them really, really well to be able to do this.

From what you've written it doesn't sound like a hearing issue at all.

reni1 · 17/04/2015 21:26

Buy a "jolly phonics" poster. We got one on amazon for a couple of pounds a year back. Doesn't improve the sitting room much, but made a big difference, it has hand signals for all the sounds, too.

mrz · 17/04/2015 23:08

I agree with Rafa using "sound buttons" or lines under each sound will help. It might help segmenting the words aurally (no ?etters) - what sounds can you hear in the word aim? - can he hear /ae/ /m/?

momtothree · 17/04/2015 23:15

Letters and sounds have games and printable work sheets. Flash cards etc. There are tricky words and high frequency words. Teacher should offer these as homework.

mrz · 18/04/2015 06:11

When reading with him point to the letters representing one sound and say this is one sound can you remember what sound? If he can great if not tell him.

Personally I would avoid games especially when a child is struggling to recall sounds.

Mashabell · 18/04/2015 07:34

I would practice words with the sound which u discover to give him trouble, a few at a time
e.g. aim, mail, maim, rain, train, brain, grain ...
shout, out, loud, clout, spout, stout...

Most consonants have stable sounds and are worth overteaching.
The vowels are the tricky ones.

BingBong36 · 18/04/2015 12:33

Thanks all fantastic advice, really helpful x

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