Where to find some Sats style questions for year5 child?

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I just don't get it,dd is fine/good almost on the basics but when faced with a Sats booklet at school she makes the most ridiculous mistakes with things she can do,doesn't read it properly etc.

Her reading is excellent.

Only thing for it is to give her some Sats style questions but don't want to use past papers her school might use.

Why is she faced with a SATs booklet in Y5?

It's one of those Sats type year5 assessment booklets(I think). Basically you get a level from it,looks very Sats like.

Twas very dry and uninspiring but they're clearly do all their assessment from it.Prior to it they didn't know her level at parents evening,they did the test after and they just showed me the result(not pretty and honestly as a former teacher hand on heart not a good indicator of her ability).She's not a genius but has excellent multiplication,fraction,percentages,angles etc.The questions she got wrong were ridiculous.

Yes I know the above isn't ideal but said school is in the lowest quintile for keystage 2 Sats maths/writing and I'm now panicking.Need to get her used to the style of questions so any advice would be gratefully received.

But there aren't any levels for Year 5 and there will a new system in place for next year's tests to reflect the new curriculum content.

Could it be she gets anxious? Maybe back right off from sats and leave it this year.

I wouldn't be doing that at home.
My dd is in yr 6 and doing some sats work at school to prepare.
Your child will be sick to death of it if she starts a year early.

Btw. SATS is about the school.
Don't worry about it.

Mrz I'm well aware of that but have to work with what the school does.

Any advice?

It's not being anxious.

Sorry can't leave it.New tests next year which will be harder,school maths results woeful already.Leaving it all until the last minute will be a nightmare.There is def an issue with reading the questions properly,using the skills she has to work out problems which should be only slightly taxing.

There are examples of next year's tests available on line worth having a look at the format working through together but I wouldn't use as a test.

Why don't you speak to the teacher with your concerns.

I did,she doesn't know what to do with her.Has sent home the paper for us to do the wrong questions with her,need more to follow on after.

I did,she doesn't know what to do withher.

Personally I think that is something I'd be much more worried about than your DD naming stupid mistakes. She will continue to learn test techniques.

I agree you shouldn't be worrying about SATs but also understand the frustration with ability vs exam technique. Would it be worth getting bond papers, the ones that work towards the 11+ in age groups? Not to put pressure on her but to practice. We have them for DS (who is doing 11+ in January and DD demanded her own (age appropriate) and she just does them when she feels like it - which isn't very often but it means she is 'getting' the way questions can be phrased and how to tackle them.

My understanding is that there won't be SATs next year, but a different type of test.
We opted for private tuition and bought 11+ exercise books ( for maths and english, verbal and non verbal reasoning) to do at home. We started in year 5 as well. They made a real difference in terms of her confidence and how she approached the tests.
HTH.

Re maths, is this the sort of thing you mean? If so remember that these questions are based on the old curriculum and are therefore missing content.

www.babcock-education.co.uk/ldp/view_folder.asp?folderid=125673&depth=6&rootid=17&level1=&level1id=&level2=1710&level2id=1710&level3=1918&level3id=&level4=125564&level4id=&level5=125583&level5id=&level6=125673&level6id=

Many thanks all,doing the 11+(oh the irony) so maybe it will help. Sats questions seem very pictorial and busy( she has dyspraxia) iykwim in comparison to 11+ but reassuring to test those type of questions helped with this kind of thing.

I agree with the poster who mentioned exam technique.I think she is going through papers too fast and not reading the questions properly.

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/328886/2014_KS2_mathematics_sample_materials.pdf these are sample questions for the 2016 tests

Many thanks.

Interestingly that link is slightly reassuring in that it seems a bit more straight forward than current Sats or am I clutching at straws?

You can get mock SATs booklets in Waterstones. Only about £4.00 for a pack of 3 and they come with guidance notes.

IMO not a bad idea, I have just got them for my Y2 Dd and they have highlighted gaps in her maths which I suspected she had as I'm not that happy with the standard of teaching at school at the moment.