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Year 5 expectations - how much has curriculum changed?

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AChickenCalledKorma · 09/03/2015 22:44

Can anyone help me understand how much the year 5 expectations have changed in Mr Gove's shiny new curriculum?
Just had a mid year report which could be taken as meaning my daughter is falling behind, but I don't know whether the expectations have changed so much that that is to be expected.
There are reasons why I'm concerned that her class may be having a bad year, so I want to be a bit more clued up before parents evening later this week.

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PastSellByDate · 10/03/2015 06:14

Hi Chicken:

My advice is go to the programmes of study for the new curriculum and look at what should be covered (and in theory mastered by your child) in Year 5:

www.gov.uk/government/collections/national-curriculum - scroll down to Programmes of Study and select the subject(s) that concern you.

There's this curriculum map comparing old and new curriculums from Suffolk (but excluding English/ Maths): www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.suffolklearning.co.uk%2Fdo_download.asp%3Fdid%3D10619&ei=94r-VNCAOseQ7AbVtYH4Cg&usg=AFQjCNFYE6zWKP_1lDlIHxtinL-x1t-nMw&bvm=bv.87611401,d.ZGU

and this from a school in Oxford:

www.william-morris.oxon.sch.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/changes-in-curr-14.pdf

HTH

Potcallingkettle · 10/03/2015 06:51

Year 5 expectations have been significantly adjusted especially in Maths. Previous Y6 topics have moved into Y5 and Y5topics have moved into Y4 so this year's cohort are stuffed as the expectations are significantly harder and they haven't covered the groundwork.

LePetitMarseillais · 10/03/2015 06:53

Out of interest what would people expect schools to have told parents in the way of changes and new methods of recording methods and achievement?Also are all but kids with SEN expected to be achieving all that is now laid out in the new curriculum for each year group?

LePetitMarseillais · 10/03/2015 06:55

It's interesting as looking at the y5 maths it is very 11+ like in content so will eventually give more kids a chance at the 11+ that first term of year 6.

LePetitMarseillais · 10/03/2015 07:14

Also if they choose to give us levels at parents evening should we expect the new equivalent under the new too?Ie if they just give us levels they'll be pretty meaningless if they're not on track to reach national expectations for their year group under the new curriculum.

AChickenCalledKorma · 10/03/2015 16:55

Thanks so much everyone. Those links are just what I needed and I feel a bit more informed now. It does seem as if this particular year group are at the sharp end of the whole thing.

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mrz · 10/03/2015 17:18

Every class will be playing catch up at the moment ... they will have been taught things that are no longer in the curriculum for their year group (or indeed in the primary curriculum - some aspects have moved to KS3) and not covered others they will need for the new expectations.

LePetitMarseillais · 10/03/2015 17:45

But I thought you said previously schools had known about this for some time.

AChickenCalledKorma · 10/03/2015 17:58

LePetit - I'm not a teacher, but I presume that even if they did know about it, they were being assessed under the previous framework so would have disadvantaged themselves by changing the curriculum early. Such is the nature of our performance-indicator-obsessed education system.

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padkin · 10/03/2015 18:40

The new curriculum has been in development for some time, but it only became statutory this September for years 1,3,4 and 5. Last year, the old curriculum was still statutory, so that is what was taught.

Y2 and Y6 are still being taught 'old' curriculum because the government, in their wisdom, introduced the new one without also introducing new national assessments in Y2 or Y6, so the tests assessments this year are still on 'old' coverage.

Next September will see everyone on the new one (unless there's a change of government, and all is rehashed again....). And current Y1 and Y5 children will be the first to do the new end of key stage assessments.

mrz · 10/03/2015 18:48

I said they knew they had to find an alternative method of assessment ... which they did and had two years to prepare.

They also had a statutory curriculum which they had to follow (Y1 & Y5 until September 2014 and Y2 & Y6 until July 2015).
We've also had a previous "new" curriculum which was scrapped at the eleventh hour.

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