How much non-teaching time for a deputy head?

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Please can I ask for some information regarding the amount of release time you get as a primary Deputy Head or the DH gets at your school?
Plus some other relevant information:
How big is your school?
What other major responsibilities you have? (e.g. SENCo, Safeguarding lead, KS leader, Eng/Maths leader, Assessment leader)
How big is your SLT / are there AHT/s?
I am really struggling with my workload and want to research whether my teaching commitment is usual for the other responsibilities I’m carrying. The governors feel the nature of the role and the pay scale I am on justifies the hours a week I need to work to get both roles done, with very little non-teaching release beyond my PPA. I am posting several threads to reach as wide an audience and get a bigger picture of what is happening in other schools before I decide whether I need to discuss this further with governors, HT and union. Many thanks.

I'm a HT of a 1 form entry school. This year my DH is out of class as she's doing a piece of school improvement work (she's also curriculum manager & organises all CPD)
Last year she was in class 2 days week but it was difficult to manage as she often got called out of class.
When I was a DH I was in class 2 days a week with similar issues.

Thank you.

I'm in a 1 1/2 form entry. Deputy head is responsible for assessment, cpd, curriculum, safeguarding and until recently maths coordinator. To be honest she's the driving force behind the school more so than the head. She only has half a day (+PPA) non teaching but will have the odd few hours here and there on top occasionally.

I teach Y6 and have 1 and a half days release each week split 3 ways between PPA, teaching and learning support for colleagues or groups and deputy head responsibilities.
I'm teaching and learning co-coordinator, Lit Co-Ord, Safeguarding Lead, staff gov, cover all breaks and half of each lunchtime plus tend to do most of the SAP/Orderpoint/Supply Admin.
Am in a 2form entry junior school, approx 200 children, currently RI but hopefully shifting into good. Think I'm on L8 pay wise.
Some quite challenging kids and parents who often need support but have great colleagues and a head teacher who values the work people do. Is hard at times even with the quite generous release I have (and being out of a Y6 class can also add to the stress some days!) but is doable.
I tend to be at work for 7:30 and stay until 6 every day but rarely bring anything home.
Don't know how that compares but do find the additional work tends to increase when release increases so be wary !

I am a governor. Our deputy head used to do 3 days teaching and 2 days Deputy duties. This was prior to a maternity leave. She came back from maternity leave to do 3 days a week and is non-teaching for those days. Concentrating on deputy duties and focus groups. We also have an AH - SLT is one for year 3 & 4 and one for year 5 & 6 plus senco. We have 2 form entry - so about 250 kids on roll.

One form 3-11. DH on 60% timetable. PPA cover not own class. L8. Inner London. Stunned by how much Secondary DH teachers earn though. I know it's bigger, but average L20 £70k ish. Not sure of teaching timetable for them.

Schools I've worked at/known well:

• One form entry. DH 3 days a week incl SENCO duties and Numeracy co-ordinator. No teaching responsibilities at all.
• One form entry with children's centre and lots of lettings to local sports clubs etc. Full time DH with no teaching responsibilities but Head was not in school all the time. DH was also SENCO, Lit co-ordinator, and about 4 other leadership roles (KS2, Travel to school, that sort of thing)
• Two form entry with children's centre attached. 2x DHs who each had 3 half days out of class. Between them they were the Lit/Num co-ordinators, KS leaders, and one was SENCO.

Our previous DH had a full teaching time table (her choice) whereas our new DH, started last September, has a day a week non contact time and extra if he requires it (no additional responsibilities).

I'm not a DH but I'm senco,designated CP and literacy coordinator and have full teaching time table.

Sorry forgot to say single form entry 3-11

Thank you everyone. It is helping build up a picture. It is amazing how varied release is, even with DHs having such differing responsibilities.

Our school is 2 form entry, Nursery - Yr6.

Our DH teaches the Level 6 Maths set (Yr 6 is divided into 3 for Maths), so that's 4 hours direct teaching a week, plus marking and preparation.

She is the SENCO, and we have an above average amount of SEN children, with 9 statemented children this year.

We are also supporting another local Primary in Special Measures, so she does a lot of training + observing over there.

We are a 'Training School', so she is also supervising 2 GTP students and 3 NQTs this year.

She's also the 'pastoral/friendly' contrast to our very fierce Head Teacher.

I'm in a 3-11 2 form entry school. Our deputy has a maths and lit group every day (so 2 hours teaching) and is responsible for assessment, cpd, ict plus 100 other general organisational bits.

I'm an assistant head responsible for curriculum and am a Year 6 class teacher for 3 1/2 days. Our other assistant heads are non class based but do have fairly hefty teaching timetables, other than the inclusion manager as we have both an autism and complex needs unit in the school which requires a huge amount of time meeting outside professionals.

I find that my workload is ok as does the deputy, but I will be coming out of class in January as the school needs me to spend more time supporting others with the introduction of the new curriculum (however I'll still be teaching my maths and lit groups everyday so again 2 hours teaching time).

In our school (primary, two form entry) the deputy head does not have a class, but occasionally teaches to allow other teachers non-contact time.

One form entry.
I'm deputy and I have half a day non-contact time. So on top of my PPA time, I am out of class for only one day a week.

Frankly it's really hard work! I am responsible for curriculum, teaching and learning (peer mentoring particularly), and I am literacy coordinator. I'm on maternity leave at the moment, so got given a year 3 class (will only be there for about 2 months in total), but normally would have a year 6 class on the assumption that the older children leave me more available to dash out to deal with 'issues' if necessary. This actually often isn't the case, and particularly around SATs I don't want to be out of class. It's something I'll be discussing when I go back.

Our DH doesn't teach. TBH I have no idea how she fills her days She is CP officer but no other special duties (other than being DH)

300 primary children in a deprived area, so there is lots of CP work and lots of disciplinary stuff to deal with which falls predominantly to her. Previously she was teaching 3 days per week but often taken out of class due to problems in other parts of the school so it really wasn't working for her or for the children.

We also have non classroom based HT, SenCo and 2 more senior teachers without classes of their own who form the SLT. 3 teachers in total without classes who take booster/intervention groups.

I know this is unusually high but there seems to be plenty of money about - I do wonder if other heads who claim never to have any cash are being entirely honest!

I used to work in a school in a deprived area before I moved to my current school. We had £100,000 worth of Pupil Premium money, which could part justify staff who almost seem 'extra', whether for part of their time, or full time.