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Yr 2 parents - Do you do extra work with your child after school?

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freedom2post · 15/09/2014 11:27

I'm wondering if I should be doing more with dd1.

She's gets homework weekly (maths or handwriting) and I check it with with her like the school asks.

Other than that I let her just play after school, she does Rainbow, Beavers and swimming lessons but apart from that her time is her own.

We obv read everyday together but luckily she doesn't see this as 'learning' and enjoys it.

Do you do handwriting, spelling or maths?

If so, do you use workbooks? How much time do you spend doing this? How would I know what to teach her?

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3catsnokids · 16/09/2014 17:25

I do 'homework time' with my 2 boys (year 1 and year 2) every night after dinner. They usually have a school reading book to read and I will then often ask them to write a sentence and draw a picture about the story. We also practise some phonics and some High Frequency Words. The one in Year 2 has also brought home a little packet of sounds he has been learning at school so we've done a few activities to do with them. My Year 1 boy probably takes about 20 minutes to do the work and my Year 2 boy takes about half an hour.

I feel it is very important to do work with them as they are quite behind at school. They are both at about the same level at reading and writing, which isn't too bad for the Year 1 but is more of a problem for my Year 2 child. I am hoping that with regular practise his reading and writing will improve a lot so that he won't be as far behind. At the moment he is on 1+ ORT whereas a lot of the class are reading quite fluently I imagine. I am also a bit concerned that not much is expected of him, as before the summer holidays he could read nothing and just wrote random letters. He can now write a simple sentence but I don't think he's showing that at school.

If they were doing fine at school I would probably just hear them read at night and do nothing else.

AstonishingMouse · 17/09/2014 00:05

No. Although I would if they lacked confidence in an area and I thought I could help.
I wouldn't do times tables at this stage as I don't think my 6 year old really grasps multiplication yet. Times tables by rote without understanding what you are actually doing seems very boring to me. They will introduce multiplication using arrays and stuff at school this year and times tables will then be learnt when they are 7 and 8 or so, which I will support at home and seems early enough to me.

PastSellByDate · 17/09/2014 11:35

Hi freedom:

I've posted a lot about DD1's struggles - so I won't go over the same story here....but my recipe is simple:

regular reading
regular maths

reading: well that can be addressed in all sorts of ways: them reading school books to you/ you reading to them/ audio books in the car on long journeys/ magazines/ comics/ etc.... we opted for a routine of reading every night after bath (unless overly tired/ ill). It became our way as a family to unwind for the evening.

maths: well first off it's ideally suited to video games and there is so much out there for free - my favourite site to reliable & good maths games is from Woodlands Junior school: resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/maths/.

I also would recommend games (snakes & ladders - but spice it up: If your Y2 child has already mastered adding numbers to 20, try adding more dice (maybe 4 dice) to get a big roll (up to 24) and then have them add up what space they should land on in their head. Can play backwards to work on subtracting.

If your DC is past learning to add/ subtract to 100 - then work on multiplication tables 2/ 5/ 10 - agree which table and play snakes and ladders with the roll of dice (use two) being the multiple of 2/5/10 table.

Times tables need to be learned by Y4 - and there is an order:

2/5/10 (often learned by counting in Y2)
3/4 are next - depends on whether working on doubling as a concept first.

I'm not completely clear when x0 and x1 are taught - but ensure they know anything x 0 = 0
and
anything x 1 = 1 (itself)

Once doubling is understood - you actually can work out a lot:

8 is double 4 times table or double two times table and double again.

6 is double 3 times table

12 is double 6 times table or double 3 times table and double again.

so with that your child should know your x0/x1/x2/x3/x4/x5/x6/x8/x10/x12 tables - leaving you with x7/ x9/ x11 - well let's ignore 7 (always best) and look at x9 and x11 which are full of patterns.

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9 has a pattern:

9 x 1 = 09 (which we write as 9).
9 x 2 = 18
9 x 3 = 27
9 x 4 = 36
9 x 5 = 45
9 x 6 = 54
9 x 7 = 63
9 x 8 = 72
9 x 9 = 81
9 x 10 = 90

So first thing to notice: the digits in the answer always adds up to 9 - and that works as high as you want to go

so 333 x 9 = 2997 and if you add those digits you get 2+9+9+7 = 27 and if you add 2 + 7 - you get 9.

next thing is between x1 to x10 - you have a pattern - the answer is two digits and the first digit is always one less than the multiple of 9.

then knowing the two digits add to 9 - you can work out the answer

so 6 x 9 (first digit starts one less than multiple, which is 6) = so first digit is 5. What + 5 = 9. 4. So second digit is 4.

6 x 9 = 54.

You can also use your hand calculator. turn your hands palm up with thumbs on outside. from left thumb number 1 to 5 (pinkie) on left hand and then 6 (right pinkie) to 10 (right thumb) on right hand. Fold the appropriate number finger for the multiple of 9.

So in 6 x 9 you'd fold finger 6 = which is right hand pinkie and you'd see 5 fingers up to the left and 4 fingers up to the right. The left fingers are the tens digit and the right fingers are the units digit. so 5 fingers left of the folded finger means 6 x 9 starts with 5 and 4 fingers to the right of the folded digit means 6 x 9 ends with -4. so 6 x 9 = 54.

That leaves 11 x 9 and 12 x 9.

Well in reality you can work out 12 x 9 in several ways.

9 x 6 = 54 and double that = 108

or you can think about it as 10 x 9 = 90 + (2 x 9 = 18) = 90 + 18 = 108.

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11 is much like one pretty straightforward to 9 x 11 - just right the multiple down 2 times.

1 x 11 = 11
2 x 11 = 22
3 x 11 = 33
...
9 x 11 = 99

10 x 11 should already be known = 110

that leaves the pattern from 11 x 11

for two digit multiples x 11 separate the first and second number of the multiple and then add both digits for the middle number

27 x 11

2 - (2+7) - 7

2 - 9 - 7

27 x 7 = 297

sometimes you have to carry if the two digits > 9

so 47 x 11

4 - (4 + 7) - 7

4 - (11) - 7

(4 + 1) - 1 - 7

5 - 1 - 7

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So that's all times tables 1 - 6 and 8 - 12 - just leaving x7.

But in fact you know your x7 facts for all those tables and actually are only missing 7 x 7. I'm afraid there is no trick but I find it helps to remember 7 x 7 is a swine - which in fact rhymes with 49.

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Learning times tables so that you don't have to think them through is a huge advantage in maths. Frankly spending time helping your child learn these - playing games/ finding good video games - woodland junior maths zone or www.multiplication.com are two good sites with video games to help practice times tables.

We did a lot at home as a family to help practice:

Playing snakes and ladder with two dice but practicing the multiple of whatever times table (with tables above x5 play board forward and back or it goes to quickly).

Playing multiplication snap: so deciding which table to practice and then flipping cards on an ordinary deck - Ace = 1/ 2 - 9 as numbered/ Jack = 10/ Queen = 11 and King = 12. First to shout out right answer wins the cards. Overall winner is the person with the most cards. Can get quite raucous - from personal experience probably advisable not to play this whilst waiting for food in a restaurant.

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From Y5/Y6 - I worked on trying to get DD1 to really think through & plan what she was writing (she'd often have to write about what she was reading as homework). I found these VCOP pyramids (V = Vocabulary/ C = Connectives/ O = Openers/ P = Punctuation) displays.tpet.co.uk/?resource=387#/ViewResource/id387 - really helpful. The four sides are set up with the bottom being easier skills and the top being more advanced. I could easily see what types of vocabulary/ punctuation/ Openers DD1 was using and could clearly see what type she needed to move on to using next. I didn't re-write her work - but would gently encourage her to use 'more interesting' words or 'another' word here and there - to just gradually get her writing from being so monosyllabic.

HTH

treadheavily · 17/09/2014 11:48

I have just started to do homework with my y2 child as there doesn't seem to be much happening at school. (Halfway through school year here)
His teacher left and they now have a series of relievers, no continuity and all up a bit of a shambles.

So we are doing a reader a day, 10mins writing, and 20mins maths. It isn't much but realistically it is all I can manage as I work FT and kids have other commitments.

TheLovelyBoots · 17/09/2014 17:10

In year 2, my kids both had 2 pieces of homework a week - one math, one spelling.

They should be reading every night. I think mine had a reading record at that age, but can't quite remember.

MimsyBorogroves · 17/09/2014 17:26

We do a reading book each night, and we are expected to fill in the reading record. Apparently we will be getting spellings and maths too, but these haven't materialised yet. I do a little maths with DS instead for now - 10 mins or so on the squeebles app or written sums on number bonds to 20 as he's struggling with maths at the moment and I'm not having much luck with the teacher noticing he actually exists in class. We also occasionally have a little chat about the topic he's doing in class - for example I've found a couple of poems that relate well to their theme, so we've had a read of those tonight.

lithemind · 17/09/2014 18:31

We are getting way too much homework... :( each week she gets 5 pieces:

  • literacy on Wed (due next Wed)
  • literacy and maths on Thu (due next Thu)
  • spellings and maths on Fri (due next Fri)

Plus one book to read each day - and hers are now 50 pages (ok not full of text but still...). We could cut back on reading but this is what she enjoys the most.

I WAS planning on doing extra work with her online on mathletics (the school gave her an account) and also WAS planning doing Bond workbooks which she enjoyed a lot... but now I'm not sure when.

Yr 1 was much lighter at 1x maths and 1x spellings homework each week, plus the reading books.

I'm trying to figure out whether this is normal or it's simply because they have a new (to the school) teacher who's trying to prove herself?!

Orangesarenottheonlyfruit · 17/09/2014 18:38

We do about the same as most others:
reading every night
spellings every night
also learn a poem by heart every week
maths number square (for a test on fridays)

maths homework at the weekend.
To be honest that's all quite enough, DD doesn't finish school until 5 (private school) and she's pretty knackered by the weekend.

MrsTruper · 17/09/2014 18:55

It depends if she is in a good school. My dd was in an average school and I did extra work with her about 2-3 times per week, mostly maths but some english. I used Letts books then and Maths Whizz on the computer. I think it gave her a boost for sure. It did not seem too much , she quite liked it as she did it with me at that age. She got super Sats results at the end of yr 2.

lithemind · 17/09/2014 18:56

p.s. our is a state school, rated as Good, whatever that means.

MERLYPUSSEDOFF · 22/09/2014 09:26

I am full agreement that maths can and should be made fun. Out of oh and me, I am considered to be the mathsy one. I go round the houses getting the correct answer. But by knowing AxB and CxD I can add them together and get the answer.
I dont teach parrot fashion but my boys know the 9 times table trick, 11s, 2, 5 and 10. We intend to start 12s soon so six will be easy. Then 4 and 8s.
I am going to teach them a version of Cribbage so they can make up 15s and mark it on the board.
Maths is fun for me - it's the spelling rules that do my head in as there is always an exception and you bet my two will find it!

MollyBdenum · 22/09/2014 09:39

DD is in Y3, but last year we didn't do anything extra. She had spellings and tables and a reading book, and violin practice.

We didn't do anything else formal with her, but have lots of conversations about interesting things, trips to theatre and museums and stuff like that which I suppose is fairly educational, but not actually homework.

MinimalistMommi · 22/09/2014 10:17

DD is in year two she reads to me about three times a day, at breakfast time, when we get in from school and at bedtime in front of the fire. It's a cosy time and she loves it. DH reads her her bedtime story straight after bath and then she will come downstairs to me and read before she gets into bed. If I leave a maths or English work book around she will fill in a page because she thinks it's fun...so she might do that a couple of times a week.

orangepudding · 22/09/2014 12:11

I do a fair amount with DS everyday but Monday as we are too busy.

DS is quite far behind his class in some basic areas so I need to teach him at home so he doesn't have big gaps in his education. I do about 10 mins of phonics, reading, flash cards, 20 mins of Mathseeds app and whatever homework he has from school. He enjoys learning at home as its pitched to his level and I do give him help. He does have some SEN and it takes him many repitions to learn things which is why home learning is so important for him.
I have two other children and we rarely did anything other than homework set by school!

steppemum · 22/09/2014 12:16

I don't do anything which isn't sent home from school.

School sends home reading every day, handwriting once a week and spellings to practice through the week.

We will get one piece of numeracy and one piece of literacy per week later in the year.

I am a great believer in playing after school!

JoandMax · 22/09/2014 12:17

I'm feeling lacking!!

DS1 is Yr2 and we have weekly home learning (alternates between maths, writing and science), some spellings and 3 reading books a week. But I do no extra at all! At the moment he's playing lego and then we'll go to the pool for a swim a bit later......

He was only 6 in July and seems so young to be in his 3rd year of school already that I don't want him wasting any playing time!

gamescompendium · 22/09/2014 12:40

We just do homework which is a reading book once a week, literacy (very open homework: last week she had to describe herself in 20 words, this week she had describe a picture using adjectives, similies, connectives, and exclamation mark and a question mark), maths homework (usually a computer game).

Otherwise she does swimming once a week but no other activities (she's at after school club three times a week so does baking on one of those days usually, but normally they have them outside as much as possible). We read to them every day and DD1 reads to herself as well in bed. We also have lightbot on the ipad so she's doing programming without knowing it, and she is also addicted to the cbeebies games which follow curriculum but we discourage playing on the computer too much.

She's at a good school and is doing well, I'm not sure how much of a pushy parent I'd be if she didn't respond so well to school.

gamescompendium · 22/09/2014 12:41

We have spelling homework as wel. Gawd I wish we could edit posts sometimes.

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