looking for a tutor for my older child 6 year old

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my 6 year old is at one of the top schools in north london. many of the other mums are tutoring their daughters. i tutored my child to get in at 4 plus but haven't since then. she is in bottom quartile as she doesn't get the extra help.
i do not want to hear opinions about whether tutoring is right or wrong (with respect) but if you know of a good tutor who can help me, please can you pm me. Thanks in advance.

I am afraid that I dont know any good tutors in North London.

But, are you sure that the school is the right fit for your daughter, if she is not doing so well in this school?

If all the other children have tutoring to help them achieve, are the schools results due to their teachers, or the extra tuition that parents pay for on top of the fees?

I have friends who at the end of y6 in the private sector, with tutoring, found that their children did not get into any of the selective secondaries they wanted, and they felt they had seriously wasted their money.

Maybe rather than scheduling in extra tutoring, consider carefully if your child is in the right school or not.

anyone else?

My niece is a tutor in London. I think she does 'a' level but most of her mates tutor at various levels too (they're med students) so she may know someone. I'll PM you if anything comes up.

Which part of north London are you? What subject area(s) does your DD need help? Was she always at the bottom quartile? I'm a firm believer of teaching/tutoring them when they're young (others can disagree as much as they like) and I think you're doing the right thing trying to tackle the problem NOW!

Gotta love how you just dismissed my post with a "anyone else?" How rude...

If your child can't manage/cope with school work at 6 without being tutored how the heck will they manage the rest of their school days.
me thinks you picked the wrong school for your child

Quintessentially - sorry. I didnt mean to be rude. Genuinely.
Its just I dont want to start a debate about whether tutoring is right or wrong. i feel we all have to do what is right for our own child.
Thanks for taking the time to reply x

It's clearly not right for your child, surely, if she needs tutoring at that age to keep up, is it? How much pressure does she need to be under when she's so young?

If she's struggling at this school, my first thought would be to get her potential assessed by an educational psychologist and if necessary, move her somewhere less academic.

Explore learning? There is one in my sainos I think they do from5?

I agree with Quint and LoveMyBoots. If your daughter needs to be tutored in order to keep up, then I would really question whether this school is the right one for her. Is it a private school? I'm not debating the rights or wrongs of tutoring either.

Would this be a school beginning with N by any chance?

Even in the most fantastic school/class on the planet that admits only the most fantastic children, there will STILL be a top quartile, a second and third and a bottom quartile. Do you remove all the children from the bottom quartile apparently it’s the ‘wrong’ school for them?

And after having removed the bottom quartile, the class resets itself and soon there is a (new) top quartile, a second and third quartile and a bottom quartile. So when and where do this end?

The same can be said for the struggling school at the other end of the stick from the fantastic school mentioned above.

My point is: If your child is at the bottom end of a class, any class, it may not necessarily be that it’s the wrong school for the child.

I know you don't want a debate but you really should question the pressure you are putting your poor child under and why you sent her to a school that she may not have got into without tutoring at 4. Perhaps move her to a school that suits her academic ability. Not only is she under a lot of pressure from being in a top school, she has the added pressure of you being unhappy with her being in the bottom quartile. There will forever be a child in the bottom quartile. You sound like a very caring parent who wants the best for child but pause and ask yourself some hard questions.

I agree with Quint. I don't think it's an issue of whether tutoring is right or wrong (I don't think it's wrong personally), but i agree that I would consider if that school was the right school for your child. Having said that, the answer may well be yes and after all, some one has to be in the bottom quartile.

You didn't mean to be rude?
Gosh. I'd get a tutor for your daughter for manners, and she'll not learn any from you if you that's how you treat people when you don't mean to be rude!

My sons independent has a similar system, they divide into quintiles, so a child in the 5th quintile will be in the bottom 20% in the class.

At secondary level I honestly dont worry too much if he is in the 5th quintile in a subject or two. He is in a selective independent where they all had to pass 11+ exams to get in, and interview well. He came from the state sector where he was Level 6 for maths, where national average for leaving primary is Level 4, most kids in his class achieved a Level 5. He is in the second quintile for maths, achieving around 80-85% in tests, so not in the top but doing well.

The point is, when they all have to pass exams to get in, and there are 600-700 applicants for 100 places, and only the top 100 applicants get in, it goes without saying that the level is high, and to be in the bottom quintile is still not bad actually, he has years to catch up.

If your daughter is in the bottom quartile, she is in the bottom 25% out of a class of children selected for their abilities, and after tutoring, it means she still has a massive advantage educationally even if she remains in the bottom quartile. As somebody else has said, somebody need to be the bottom 25%, and if the level is high it wont matter.

Many of the children from my sons secondary prep school did not get in to the schools secondary. Many of the parents were irate that their children had not been taught to passing level; it did not reflect good on the school.

If your dd is really struggling, and you feel she is not learning, she possibly is not in the right school for her. If she is still progressing, but at the bottom, I would not worry. She is still young. At her age, she needs to have other stimulation than just formal learning to fire her imagination and allow her to develop and mature, like free play. I recommend she collects beetles, jump in puddles, read fascinating stories, go to museums, sing, dance, listen to good music, and climb trees more!