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How many get all level 6?

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Verycold · 12/07/2014 23:47

That's what dd would like to know. She got level 6 maths but not reading or writing.

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Iownafourinchporsche · 13/07/2014 00:19

Yes one 6, rest 5's for DS but I've not told anyone at all.

Cheebame · 13/07/2014 01:08

I'm not sure those data are easily available. You can easily find out what percentage got a 6 for each thing (from previous years at least) but not what percentage got given combinations of scores.

exexpat · 13/07/2014 01:13

I don't know what the figures are this year, but according to this government report on last year's Sats, about 7% of year 6s got a level 6 in maths, but only 2% in spelling, punctuation and grammar, and officially 0% in reading - actually more than 2,000 got level 6 in reading, but it is such a small percentage it rounds down to 0.

So I think the answer is that not many would get level 6 in all three, and your DD will certainly not be alone in getting level 6 maths but not English, as the numbers are higher for maths.

SixImpossible · 13/07/2014 01:16

Ask the kids. IME they all (5+ achievers, at least) know what the others got.

MrsKCastle · 13/07/2014 09:06

As exexpat says, less than 1% got 6 in reading, last yearso the figure for all L6s is even lower than that.

CatKisser · 13/07/2014 09:08

I had a boy this year who got l6 in SPaG and maths but not in reading. Annoyingly, his infant school kindly sent him through for reading on a L4 (which I queried) so he now he's made "insufficient progress in reading."
Grrr.

Cheebame · 13/07/2014 09:10

If they assessed him as a 4 and you queried it, what makes you think he wasn't a 4, CatKisser?

CatKisser · 13/07/2014 09:12

I didn't query the four, I queried it as I understood that three was the highest they could assess them at. I was then informed that NOW a 3 is the highest they can be sent through as, but then it was possible to send them through as a four.
You learn something new every day, hey?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 13/07/2014 09:25

Catkisser, it always has and still is possible to send children through as a 4. There has never been a cap on the teacher assessment score. Whoever told you that now the highest they can be assessed as is a 3 is wrong.

merrymouse · 13/07/2014 09:30

Maybe he is now a level 7?

[I know nothing about levels emoticon…]

CatKisser · 13/07/2014 09:34

Ah! I love the conflicting advice in the education world!
Thanks Rafa Grin
The person who told me the cap is now L3 was the Head of this pupil's previous infant school! Thankful, however, that he's the only L4 I've even seen at Ks1!

todayiamfat · 13/07/2014 09:46

Can't wait for all levels to be abolished. All these 'L6' get reassessed in a baseline assessmemt at secondary and are usually nowhere near a L6. My group last year reassessed at L4s! Shock.

This is not a dig a year6 teachers. This is a warning to any parents reading. These 'levels' are supppsed to be transferable. They are not.

TheWave · 13/07/2014 09:48

Can't find the thread at the moment but I thought someone posted 942 children level 6 reading for 2013 so it would be fewer than this maybe?

tiggytape · 13/07/2014 10:02

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RaisinBoys · 13/07/2014 10:30

Why does your DD want to know? She presumably did the best she could?

My DS got a 6 SPaG and 5's in official Sats. He is however most proud of his teacher assessed writing score of 6B and the comments she made about his writing on his report. She after all knows him and knows how he works.

Yes, I know! (Before all the secondary teachers come on). His levels may well be reassessed at secondary. That doesn't matter really. I just hope he comes across an English teacher who is passionate about their subject and who can continue to nurture my DS's love of literature and creative writing.

Verycold · 13/07/2014 12:55

Of course she did, but she's just curious

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proudmama2772 · 13/07/2014 14:19

pg 6 of first link

Optional level 6 tests were introduced in reading and mathematics this year. 0 per cent of pupils
achieved level 6 in reading – a level 6 in reading was awarded to approximately 900 pupils, but as a
percentage this rounds to 0 – and 3 per cent achieved level 6 in mathematics. Boys outperformed
girls at this level in mathematics, with 4 per cent of boys and 2 per cent of girls achieving level 6.

Sounds like you've got a very bright daugherSmile

proudmama2772 · 13/07/2014 14:24

raisinboys

Why does your DD want to know? She presumably did the best she could?
She after all knows him and knows how he works

tests are a part of life and its natural to know how well you do compared to others.

Cheebame · 13/07/2014 14:35

The link doesn't answer the question proudmama2772 other than to say that there were between 0 and 900 children who got all 6s.

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Cheebame · 13/07/2014 15:05

"children entering Year 7 on a 5a or 6 do not tend to end Year 7 on a 6a or 7b for example and tend to consolidate the grade already achieved."

Certainly when I did my PGCE one of the things we were repeatedly reminded of was that a lot of children - of all abilities - see a dip in progress when they move from year 6 to year 7. I don't think it's just a high ability thing; it takes schools a while to suss them out, and it takes the kids a while to get the hang of a new school, new staff, and of being the little kids instead of the big ones and so on.

proudmama2772 · 13/07/2014 15:11

cheebame

It also my have something to do with - new school - low assess so on exit the student appears to have achieved more levels of progress.

Not so much that there is natural dip in ability when they change schools or at the age of 12.

and also - levels aren't perfectly streamlined and can be many sublevels inaccurate especially when human bias is added to the equation. Levels are/were a reasonable attempt to measure schools against the same standard - just didn't do that very well.

teacherwith2kids · 13/07/2014 16:19

In my personal experience - DS and his friends at the same school - those who got L6 in Maths in Y6 HAVE ended up with 7c / 7b at the end of year 7, and 8c or 8b at the end of Year 8.

DD has L6 in both English and Maths and is going on to the same non-selective comp as DS (she is a much less 'natural' mathematician - though very well taught - but significantly better than L5 DS at English)

teacherwith2kids · 13/07/2014 16:22

Sorry, a bit got deleted - it will be interesting to see how her progress compares with DS, as I suspect that her Maths will progress a little more slowly, ansd the comparison between the two subjects will be interesting.

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