I know, I know..... year 2 - levels!

[OohMrDarcy]

I know this is going to annoy a whole heap of people! And I thought I understood about blasted levels, but am now bloody confused!

The main stumbling block is, for example where does a full number - say a 2 sit, compared to the ones with the letter appended?

in my logical head I am assuming same as a 2b? got confused as was expecting report to be all whole numbers, or with the abc, not a combination of both

First time we've seen kevels, and yes I know it doesn't matter in the grand scheme, but I just like to understand things!

levels, not kevils

2 is just giving you the NC level without the fine grade; it could be a 2c, b or a that's entered on the school tracking system.

thanks for that - bloody stupid of them to give a sub level on some aspects but not others!

Flat levels (just number, not letter) is all the National Curriculum identifies. When reporting end of key stage one results (Year 2) we can only submit sub-levels (a, b or c) at level 2 in reading, writing and maths. Not in other subjects and not at level 1 or 3 in any subject area. All the rest have to be reported to LA, etc. as flat levels.

At my school independent, (ie not a clue about the real world) we gave sublevels for Maths and writing but not for science, reading and s & l)

Actually we did sublevel reading

It's statutory, I'm afraid - for Speaking and Listening and Science only a broad level judgement is required: 1, 2, 3, etc.

For Maths, Reading and Writing a broad level is required for a 1 or a 3 but a level 2 must be sublevelled.

So not the school's fault

Technically sublevels don't exist in the National Curriculum *just to confuse things further)

And next year your child will probably not be assessed against NC levels as they will no longer exist!

Ok, I get you! That fits what I am seeing,

I won't go back on thr bloody stupid idea though just change who I blame!

Seriously though, I understand for the 1 / 3 levels.... they say all you need to know really don't they

Wow! question answered before a bunfight ensued

oh lastfriday and mrz, you threw those curveballs in just for shits and giggles didn't you!

I just like everyone to as confused as I am at the removal of levels and the (lack of) information being given on what to do instead!

PS - Year 2 teacher here who gave levels out last week, but we added an explanation letter to try and clear the fog.

thanks

Can you help with Year 1 levels please! End of year.

2c Reading
2c Writing
1a Maths
1a Science

There is some debate in my area as to the "expected" level at the end of year 1; either a 1B or a 1A. So reading and writing above expectations and maths and science either at or above, depending on the school/LAs take on it. Your Year One will be the last cohort to be assessed against the old National Curriculum levels in summer 2015. If they were entering my class I would be targeting, as a minimum, a L3 for reading and writing and a 2A for maths and science.

Thanks. It's all rather confusing!

Useful NC levels chart:

everybodylearns.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/NC-levels.jpg

or a totally different chart here cisalkhor.com/media/files/page/849ca4f2/National_Curriculum_Expectations.pdf

the fact is there are no official expectations except for Y2 and Y6 www.education.gov.uk/schools/performance/archive/ks3_04/k3.shtml

My son is in Yr 2 and has been graded a 2B at reading - which surprised me as reading is by far his best area and yet he got graded higher for everything else. He's been a free reader for at least 1/2 of year 2 so I'm confused that that correlates to a 2B - I thought that was about Gold level. I'm going to query it at parents evening (more out of curiosity than anything). It's odd as elsewhere in the report (where he's graded in 1-4 - not NC levels I know) - he's been gives 4s on everything reading related - ie working beyond expected level. Any insight appreciated - so I know what I should be asking at parents evening.

Lego - it could be that he can read at a higher level but his comprehension may be lagging behind a bit. It's much more about the understanding of what they read than the actual reading.

Thanks Fuzzymum1 - I did wonder that and thought that might be the explanation. Turns out that it was a mistake and should have been a 3B. I sent a note in this morning (on the comments section on the report that has to be returned to them) and they've just rang me and apologised and said it was an error and should have been a 3B - so all good!

I'm always conscious about getting a balance between being a pushy parent and just generally being on the ball. Glad I pushed on this one. It wouldn't neccessarily matter so much if he was staying in the same school - but he's moving in Sept (current school is infants only plus we've moved house) so I think it's important that if his marks are forwarded on to his new school - that he's graded correctly. Glad that's sorted!