Where can I get a copy of previous SATs papers?

[SandyChick]

Hi, ds is in yr2.

I'm just curios as to what the SATs papers/questions are like.

Is there somewhere you can download past papers?

Of course.

However, using the odd past question to support a lesson is anything but.

Breaking the rules, however, and making small children sit paper after paper, or sending papers home for a 6/7 year old's homework is just unnecessary - and pretty mean, actually.

Completely agree on that Feenie. I have always objected to the tests (been a Year 2 teacher for 14+ years), and hoped with new curriculum they would go .
Luckily for me I am moving into Year 1 in September and retirement isn't far off!

Actually, I quite liked the 2005 change, and if they're used properly as a light touch procedure where the children aren't even aware in most cases, I don't mind them. Much better than the bad old days.

Seems from stories on here that some schools are hell bent on sabotaging that though. I hope the 2016 testing procedure remains the same and tightens up on the malpractice.

What I did when I taught Y2 and what our present Y2 teacher did - give all the class an old paper to look at and walk through it as a class talking about each question - it familiarises the children with the format of the paper without testing them twice.

Sorry, I was referring to the 2016 tests when I faced earlier, not 2005 change (which I welcomed as the beginning of a move from testing six and seven year olds).

The draft talks about the test only being part of statutory teacher assessment though? So am hopeful that sounds the same, pretty much, but with a SPAG

My understanding of the KS1 tests are they are more of an echo of KS2.
Maths – two papers for all children (not either L2 or L3 as now)
Reading – two papers (from test framework sounds similar to a L2 and L3 format) and children do both, but can be stopped at any time (my assumption here is they start on the lower test, then continue with the higher test if the teacher feels it is suitable)
SPAG – three papers; 1) a written activity to assess grammar and punctuation, 2) a grammar, punctuation and vocabulary test and 3) a spelling test
Plus a writing teacher assessment based on look at the creative aspect of writing.

looking
I'll return to my reports now!

Blimey, not liking the sound of that at all. Where have you got that information from, IsitFriday? You know a lot more than I do, by the sounds of it.

www.gov.uk/government/collections/national-curriculum-assessments-test-frameworks#key-stage-1

Thanks, mrz

www.theschoolrun.com has loads of stuff

The key stage 1 English reading test is comprised of two components; one integrated reading and answer booklet and one separate reading booklet with an associated reading answer booklet.

One reading booklet comprises a selection of text(s) with questions interspersed. The word count will be approximately 400 – 700 words. This component contains 20 marks.
The second reading booklet comprises a selection of texts, totalling approximately 800 - 1100 words. The associated reading answer booklet contains 20 marks.

The mathematics test is comprised of two components, which are presented to children as two separate test papers. The first component is an arithmetic paper. The second paper presents a range of mathematical problems. The test is administered on paper.

The English grammar, punctuation and spelling test is comprised of three components, which are presented to children as three separate test papers. The test is administered on paper.

Obviously there won't be a level 2 and level 3 test as there will be no levels.

Looks like all children sit both Maths - but the first is just 15 mins!

In 14 years teaching, I have done 2 x 2 year stints in Y2. I am curently in my second year of my 2nd stint - IYSWIM!!!!

I am about to conduct my 4th SATs test and I, and other past Y2 colleagues, have never put a child in for a L2 OR a L3 paper. We have always considered those who achieve a 2A to sit the L3 paper as you always get children who are notorious to assess (6 & 7 year olds have plenty 'off days' and can be 'hit and miss' in class assessments) between a 2A and a 3C. No 'body' from any educational establishment has questioned what we do/have done since SATs were first introduced and the fact many schools allow children to sit L2 & L3 test papers (and practise papers) shows that it is a ruling that is ignored - a lot!

There are a lot of rules and expectations that are ignored, incluing how one school asked me how many L3s I was allowed and I was flabbergasted. I made it very clear that if a child was a 3B, they were to be recorded as so and I would not 'pick and choose' in order to cheat, alter, 'fix' the value added scores at the end of KS2. The fact is, some schools play the system, some innocently don't realise that what they are doing is breaking the rules.

So you would award a level 3 to a child who is consistantly working at level 2 because in a test they achieve enough marks on qiestions covering a fraction of the curriculum ... and it's ok because no one questioned why

Have you had a statutory moderation junkfoodaddict ?

When I've been moderated they have never looked at the tests just consistant evidence in day to day work. At my last moderation my moderator was being moderated to ensure that everything was done by the "rules".

No mention at all of the rest of the wealth of evidence you are supposed to have for your 2a/level 3 child, just the suggestion that one test could swing it either way - fabulous.

Our moderators specifically say they don't want to look at the tests.

I'm a KS1 Moderator! We are instructed to look at all evidence, except the tests to make our own level judgement (in our head) before we start talking to the teacher. We can only look at the tests as a final clincher. We are also instructed to report any school either:

1. not doing the tests
2. using the tests inappropriately
3. relying on the tests to make their level judgements unless exceptional circumstances
4. where, as a whole school, tests are seriously out of kilter with teacher assessments

Interesting - thanks.

I'm really not understanding all the kerfuffle about SATS. I often read of teachers who say they manage to have their class take them and they barely notice, in fact most don't even realise they've taken a test. SATS are just a series of questions, just like you find in countless workbooks. Workbooks that are a lot more fun than the fusty old text books I had to work through as a child of the 70s.

Teachers have to assess how their pupils are progressing, SATS are just one way of making an assessment, not the best way, but only because any type of assessment has pros and cons. They are hardly the work of the devil, though sometimes I get the impression people think that they are, what with all the kerfuffle they seem to engender.

Good schools won't rely on workbooks either diamondage