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hrafnhildurm · 02/06/2014 13:47

Hi,

I will be moving to England (York) this fall from abroad with my family of three and while scanning over the amount of childcare options in England I got a bit confused (childcare, creches, nurseries, nannies, au-pairs, pre-schools etc. - wow!) and was wondering if someone could give me an advice.

My son is two years old (getting three in the beginning of August) and is currently going to Kindergarten where we live. In the fall, my husband and I are both going to university and will probably be attending classes most days. Can anyone tell me which of these options above (or other?) could maybe suit us? What is the difference and would you recommend any?

Thank you.

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RosesandRugby · 02/06/2014 14:24

Childcare/childminder is often a qualified adult who looks after other children in their own home (not the child's home, the carers home) . They can take them from birth right through to teenagers. Most offer childcare from around 7am-7pm Monday-Friday. Most will do before and after school drop off and pick ups. You usually pay weekly or monthly in advance.

Creches are usually groups of children looked after by several carers. They are often situated near workplaces or university campuses (this may be the best option for you) as they usually only take children from birth up to compulsory school age (5 years). Im not sure on their operating hours you will need to ask each one specifically because some may offer childcare to emergency service staff who work shifts.

Nurseries are similar to crèches really. They operated from the beginning of the working day (from 6am in some places) through to the evening (some as late as 8pm I believe). They have several staff usually in a large building separated into age groups. 3 and 4 year old children are entitled to free nursery care and some 2 year olds but its limited on how many hours are free (someone else will know im sure).

Some Nurseries are attached to a local primary school but having a place at a particular nursery wont guarantee you a place at that school when your child starts full time school.

Some private nurseries will take children from birth - 5 years, others only take 3+4 year olds.

Nannies/Au-Pairs are pretty much the same thing. You pay privately for someone to look after your child in your own home. Au-pairs generally have their own room and meals provided by you whereas Nannies may go home at the end of the day. Although some people have a Nanny who has their own room.

Pre-school is basically from age 4 usually and its a more structured form of childcare. Its often based on a normal school day (starts around 8.45am finishes around 3pm) . My children's pre-school had a uniform and they were taught basic letters, numbers, reading their name etc. They had a sports day to attend and Christmas play. It was like a mini school. These are generally attached to private schools you can also use the 'free nursery hours for 3 and 4 year olds ' towards your fee's so its discounted from the full fees.

Its been a few years since I've had to use childcare as my children are now at primary school so although the advice I've given is reasonably correct (I believe) there may be differences/changes over the last few years that I've missed out as I'm unaware of them. Blush

As to what is best for you I cannot say. They all have their pro's and con's. I would recommend you start with your University and see if they have a crèche on site. If not then contact the local education authority for the area you will be living and ask them to send you details of local nurseries/childminders etc and take it from there.

hrafnhildurm · 02/06/2014 14:39

Thank you! Now we have a much clearer image of our options.

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BillnTedsMostFeministAdventure · 02/06/2014 19:04

I would just add that nursery and childminder hours vary and may be, for example, 8-6.

noramum · 02/06/2014 21:02

Most towns have a Family Information service where you can get lists with all kind of childcare available. How places are allocated depends on the council. Some do proper admissions for pre-schools where you fill out a form at the council and you get a place allocated. Some councils do nothing and you speak to each provider seperatley.

If you have classes either all day or on different times a day a childminder or a nursery may be better than a pure pre-school especially as your child is not yet 3 when most pre-schools start accepting children as the government pays 15 hours a week towards the costs.

Your university may have something attached to it.

Are you staying longer in the UK? I ask because children start school earlier than in the US. Your child will start school if he/she turns 4 before the 31. August so you may need to take this into consideration as well, especially when it comes to choosing a location to life.

TeenAndTween · 02/06/2014 21:44

Nannies and Au Pairs are different.

Nannies are trained professionals who will have childcare qualifications. They can be live in or not.

Au pairs tend to be old teens / young 20s who are meant to be living with you as part of the family, generally to learn English. They are meant to be more like an 'older sibling' wrt child care. So yes to helping out, but not to have 10 hours child care on their own every day. They may well have no formal child care qualifications.

PastSellByDate · 03/06/2014 11:13

hrafnhildurm

Primary school doesn't start until the year your child turns 5.

So at age 3 you would be looking for a nursery/ creche/ pre-school - all three terms are interchangeable in England.

Given you're about to be going to an English University - my advice is contact the University. Many Universities have nurseries for staff/ students. As a student you should be entitled to a discounted rate. Go to the University website and type in 'childcare' on their website 'search' box. Most Universities will have some information on childcare facilities there.

HTH

suitcaseofdreams · 03/06/2014 15:39

yes, first step would be to see if there is childcare (nursery/creche) onsite at the uni you will be attending. this will make it much easier with regard to logistics

if not, then consider child minder or other local nursery. pre-school unlikely to suit as the hours will generally be 9-3pm

bear in mind that nursery operates all year round and there's no problem if a member of staff is off sick/on hols - they have cover. childminders will have to close if they are ill, and they take holiday when they want to (meaning you have to find alternative cover on those dates)

if your son is 3 at beginning of Aug, he will start school September 2015 so if you are going to be in UK then, you will need to apply for a school place. applications open in approx November 2014 and need to be submitted by early Jan 2015 (need to check dates with local authority) your son will be one of the youngest in his year and you are not legally obliged to have him in school until the term he turns 5 (ie after Easter 2016) but he would then go into Year 1 and effectively miss Year R (reception) - you could keep him in nursery until then if the nursery will have him...

good luck!

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