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max78 · 10/05/2014 11:59

Hi, I just wondered if someone could advise please on the levels my daughter is currently working to in Literacy and writing? She is in year 4, and at the end of March we were told that she was a level 2a+? We knew that she was lower than national standards but I'm not sure by how much?
Googling the web seems to vary in what levels is expected at this age so it would be great if there are any teachers around or anyone else that perhaps knows the average level at this stage of year 4? Thank you!

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TheGruffalo2 · 10/05/2014 12:05

Expectations for end of year levels

max78 · 10/05/2014 12:11

Thank you, that's a really useful link Smile My daughters teacher was talking about +'s and -'s as well which is why I am confused? Do you know how relevant these are?

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spanieleyes · 10/05/2014 12:16

Each sub level is worth 2 points ( so a 2b is 15 points and a 2a is 17) some schools then measure progress using the interveening point, so a 2b+ is worth 16 points. Can't see the difference personally between a 2a+ and a 3c-!

TheGruffalo2 · 10/05/2014 12:18

Some teachers add a + if the child is operating at the top end of a level e.g. 2b+ means a good 2b but not quite a 2a. Or a - if they have just scraped into the level. None of this is official and just a few teachers use them.

Alternatively + & - can indicate progress (+) or regression (-), which is more in terms of whole school data year-on-year than an individual child.

max78 · 10/05/2014 12:20

That's partly why I'm confused as to how behind she is! Teacher said they would expect her to be a level 3c by the end of march, so when she said my daughter was a 2a I wasn't to concerned as thought it was only one sub level. But then the teacher started talking about 2+'s and 3-'s, implying that she was 2-3 levels behind, which obviously concerns me a lot more Confused

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mrz · 10/05/2014 17:17

Officially there are only whole levels in the National Curriculum (but they are "huge" in terms of measuring progress) so some bright spark had the idea of dividing each level into a,b & c the only problem being there isn't a national expectation of what exactly is needed to achieve each sub level (inexact science). But then in their desire to track teaching and learning they discovered that sub levels aren't small enough so they created sub, sub levels (+ & -) Confused

If your daughter was 2A and is now a 2A plus it means shes made a sub sub level progress Hmm

mrz · 10/05/2014 17:22

Remember in KS2 the expectation is 2 whole levels (or 6 sub levels) progress in FOUR years! (or 12 terms),

If the school are measuring every half term as many do that's 2 levels divided by 24 half terms (or 0.08 of a level per half term) ... madness!

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