Teaching assistants in class

[jellybeans001]

Is it except able for a teaching assistant to run a class long term

It isn't allowed in England either Euphemia.

The Education Act 2002 (Section 133) deals with the requirement to be qualified and sets out in regulations that specified work (i.e. teaching) may not be carried out by a person in a school unless s/he is a qualified teacher

Their where no teachers in the class just the two t as. The reason I have concern is because my son is considered sen and targets where set for him that where not done during this time. His teacher during that time before t a came in said that his support had stopped and that he had to reinstate it again. I went to see senco before meeting took place to set targets and made issues worse and said she might have to bring someone else in despite them not meeting his targets and despite the instability in his class. The senco at that point had no idea what was happening with my son and had not told me he was doing group work with t a. Surely this is wrong. One week before appointment they then come in to see my son which I found a joke as they hadn't fixed what was happening since January and where coming to see what was happening. Sen teacher in meeting said sorry for saying he was going to be referred to someone else and made out like she knew what was going on when she clearly did not and t a looked lost too. They don't know what level he is at and set easy targets that he already knew. Then he was hit and t a looked lost again when I asked her. Is this not enough and they put him on sen register without my knowledge and made me cry only to say no we are not doing that sorry. Clearly don't know what their doing

Senco clearly a liar as she said his one to one stopped but not support group but he had lots of teachers and t as I'm sure not all of them supported him because senco was too lazy to see how he was doing before appointment. She told me she saw him in January and properly has no idea what support he got after that

My dd has a trainee teacher (for math) the rest of the lessons are been taught by the class teacher, the problem is that the trainee has to go to university once a week, and she has not maths lesson that day, because they only got a Ta that supervise the class but does not teach them ( they do a mental math text and play math games in a lap top)

They don't have to teach maths (or any subject) everyday as long as over the week/term they receive appropriate teaching.

Well I don't know about appropriate teaching as I was not there but my son has clearly not been assessed as they are setting work he already knows so pretty crap

sorry my reply was to spanish11

Mrz part of me thinks that they are setting easy targets so they don't have to work with him much really let down by school do you think I have good reasons for leaving

I think you have reasons to be concened if the school believes it is acceptable for the class to be taught by 2 teaching assistants for extended periods of time but it's very difficult to judge your other issues without knowing the school.

Sent you message mrz

It's possible that the TA does have a teaching qualification.

Dh discovered by a chance conversation that a lady who has been a TA in ds' school for the last 9 years we've been with the school, and she wasn't new then, was previously a deputy head, who decided to take a back seat for health reasons.

I've known other cases where a teacher has chosen to spend some time as a TA too.

Don't know but don't think so as they said the debuty head would be in their as well but only saw her in there for one day when doing morning drop off and was not their in the afternoon.dont really trust the school

Bet she's not being paid as a teacher though. Very wrong. Hope your new school does well for your child OP.

Thanks panzee I hope so to because I love my son and want him to do well

I have a friend who is a HLTA but also a qualified primary teacher. For various reasons she decided she would prefer to be a TA rather than a teacher. I think she gets paid more than a TA but obviously not teacher salary.

I'm sorry, but its quite difficult to understand exactly what you are trying to say sometimes. Your son had some targets set but he was unable to achieve them. He didn't achieve any of his targets? Could you have helped him to achieve any of them? Parents need to work with the schools in order to help their child develop.

You come across (forgive me if I am wrong) as expecting rather a lot from school staff and seem to want instant results. Have a go at working in a school. You hardly get a chance to breathe. Sometimes a child gets hit and sometimes the teacher/T.A/SMSA forgets to pass the information on. Do you never forget anything? People who work in schools are only human.

With regards to his levels, again, you cant really expect a teacher/TA to remember your sons exact levels in everything there and then can you?

Did the school not send out any correspondence to the parents at all regarding the classroom situation?

Good luck in your new school and I hope the SEN department aren't a load of liars.

He achieved them but school failed to help him. He was soppose to have one to one with t a which he didn't have that was one target was one to one support but he didn't get it which is why I'm upset. I worked with him and he has progressed and done really well just disappointed with school

His iep was one to one with t a so not expecting to much what you talking about. In meeting didn't even go over old targets. So don't know what your talking about. Russian Blu taking things way to personal. If target was set and it was not met would you not be unhappy

And he achieved all his targets as he's got a good mother that supports his education

A child wouldn't be set a target of one to one support with a TA. A target is something that is set for a child and should be realistic and achievable by that child. A target might be something like being able to say hello to his teacher upon arrival at school or being able to sit quietly for 5 mins during carpet time or being able to tell the teacher where he would like to work today, those type of things. Don't you have a copy of his IEP?
Also, confused after re reading your message. Earlier you said (if I understood correctly) that he hadn't achieved any of his targets, now you say he achieved all of them but with no help from the school. Then you say that his target was to have one to one sessions with a TA. None of that makes any sense I'm afraid.

Been given conflicting messages from school which is why I called senco a liar. Just frustrated

Ok then Jelly bean. If you think I am taking this personally (hmmmm) I shall not bother you with my thoughts anymore. As you are such a fantastic parent I am sure you will do a sterling job by yourself. Who needs schools anyway. If a target was set for my child and it hadn't been met I would be prepared for it to run on to the new set of targets (as it often does) and ask for strategies as to how I can help him to meet his target.

Best wishes!

He was set one to one support I'm his mother and I was in the meeting you were not. He was suppose to sit with a t a for 15 minutes in the day for one to one and he didn't get it so dont tell me otherwise

He meet his targets but one target was one to one with t a he didn't get that and then teachers and t a kept changing so doubt other targets where met as senco was not on it so my beliefs are justified and I honestly don't know what your problem is no class should be robbed of a qualified teacher for months on end. So if you support that you've clearly got some thinking to do and schools should be organised as parents have the right to know what's happened to their child. You surely don't come from a very good school if you think these things are acceptable

What I think you need to do jelly is prepare yourself with a set of specific questions to talk to his class teacher and SENCo about in a calm, non-combative manner.
You need to ask precisely what your child's learning difficulties are, and how the school are going to meet those needs so his learning moves forwards at an appropriate pace. IEPs can't wave a magic wand and solve issues over night, in a term and sometimes ever. But there does need to be progress, even if it is sometimes in babysteps.
Saying he is supposed to sit with a TA for 15 minutes a day is pretty pointless; this could be to anything at any time - during the register, over lunch, in maths (when his difficulties are literacy), in reading time, social skills activities during playtime with other children and an adult, etc. What support is the TA supposed to be providing and how are they providing it? Is it one-to-one and outside the main teaching time (i.e. in addition to the main curriculum), if so how are they fitting it in so he doesn't miss classroom learning? Or is it during a literacy lesson? Is it adult support in a group during a specific lesson? If you want to challenge the school you need really precise complaints with measurable concerns.