At what level is area and perimeter taught?

[Mathsquestionplease]

Ds has just started learning this and I was wondering what NC level it would fit? Thanks

Anyone? I would be really greatful

Based on when my DS started doing it- Level 4. But hopefully a teacher will be along to confirm :)

Thanks redskyatnight
Ds recently started a new school and seems to be getting more challenging work so I'm curious as to what level they have him working at.

The level depends on whether he "gets" it or not! But AFIR I taught this in Yr 3 (so 7/8 yr olds). At the end of yr 3 the expected national level is 3b.

Although watch this space because no-one knows what's happening to levels from September...

I thought the expected national level for the end of year 3 was a 2a/3c?

Year 3 and again in 5 here

Well 2B is "normal" at the end of Y2, so 2A-3B is "at level expected" for Y3. Most schools I know expect the top end of that spectrum.

My daughter is in Year 2 and they had a module on Area and Perimeter a couple of weeks ago. They didn't cover formulas for calculating areas - rather counted squares as the figures were on squared paper. Same with perimeter - addedd length of squares. It is not really difficult if you introduce it with age appropriate explanations.

My year 4 daughter just did this last week and is a 4c

It occurs at various levels depending on what shape you are calculating it for squares DD did in year 2 and has built on this triangles was in year 4. Circles has just been touched on now in year 5.

Ds did this over the weekend. Y4. Level 4c+

In our maths scheme - counting area - year 2 or 3, calculating area of rectangles - year 4, finding composite areas - year 5. With some overlapping with differentiation, obviously.

Perimeter - introduced in year 4.

DDs class had this for homework in Y3. Area using squares plus perimeter using addition.

From the current level descriptors
Level 4 - They find perimeters of simple shapes and find areas by counting squares

Level 5 - Pupils understand and use the formula for the area of a rectangle

Level 6 - They understand and use appropriate formulae for finding circumferences and areas of circles, areas of plane rectilinear figures and volumes of cuboids.

Year. 4 here, level 4a.

And then covered again in year 7 usually, going onto trapezium, triangles, parallelogram etc, depending on ability.

Hi Mathsquestionplease:

Just a Mum so can't declare anything on NC Level - but these seem to be KS2 lower (so Years 3/4) work - and that was definitely the experience for both of my girls (although much more with area in Year 5 for DD1/ DD2 had it earlier late Year 3).

perimeter and length/ volume - all seem to be cropping up in the Year 3 new curriculum programme of study for maths (page 21 here: www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/239129/PRIMARY_national_curriculum_-_Mathematics.pdf

Under Year 4 - area is specifically mentioned:

measure and calculate the perimeter of a rectilinear figure (including squares) in centimetres and metres

? find the area of rectilinear shapes by counting squares

(see page 27).

HTH

Ds was doing perimeter of the playground a couple of weeks ago-I know because he was very excited about the "clicky wheel". He's year 2. So they've got the concept there, but that's not calculating it, it's measuring it.

Dd2 definitely did it in at most year 4 because they were doing funny shapes (like two rectangles stuck together, or a shape with a recangular hole in) and area/perimeter of triangles at the middle of year 4. She was a 4a at that point.
So I'd guess they did basic rectangles in year 3 (got a 4c at the end), but I'm not sure.

DS had homework on this topic last week but it was (in my lay term) working backwards - if the area of a square is 81cm (can't find sqd on keyboard) what is the perimeter of that square? Year5.

According to APP it's level 4:

*find perimeters of simple shapes and find areas by counting squares, e.g.
– use the terms ‘area’ and ‘perimeter’ accurately and consistently
– find areas by counting squares and part squares
– begin to find the area of shapes that need to be divided into rectangles
– use ‘number of squares in a row times number of rows’ to find the area of a rectangle

Ds has done this for squares and rectangles, he is in Y5. His brother did circles in Y5

My year 4 did it a couple of weeks back, she's in the top maths group

I mean, my youngest who has just done squares and rectangles is in Y4, not in Y5. My oldest, now in Y7, did circles when he was in Y5. Sorry for confusing matters. My Y4 boy is not level 4 for maths, he is Level 3 something. (Cant remember)

Area and perimeter questions were found in my child's Level 3-5 school tests