Is there a pretty much solid level to be now in y5 to be sure of superselective?

[hercules1]

Hi
What sort of levels for a y5 child at this time of year would indicate a sure as sure can be indication that they will get into super selective?
Dd is in special measures school so trying to do work this out.

Meant to add we would want to appeal if dd didn't get in so wonder too what sort of levels in special measures school would support any appeal (obviously hope this doesn't happen!).

Ds is at the comprehensive and we found that the secondary school used CATs test and their own judgement rather than primary school SATs. I imagine that for grammar school entrance there would be no allowances for your child's school being in special measures as they use verbal and non verbal reasoning tests.

Sadly private school kids with tutoring are allowed to compete on an equal footing with fsm kids in a special measures primary. The grammar system stinks.

In my experience super selective schools go by test results and do not give a stuff about primary school levels... But that is just in my area. Guess it depends on where you are.

Hi. The tests are English and maths. Yes, seems very unfair. She has had run of supply teachers and school is very low value added.

Just wanted to know whether she can compete against other children from private/good/outstanding schools.

A very secure level 5 in English and Maths, at the very least, for super selective.

The thing is:

• Level 4 child (even at end Y6) with huge amount of tutoring: got in to 'takes top 5%' type grammar school.

• Solid level 5s across the board in year 5, strong level 6s at end Y6, no tutoring: didn't.

• Private school child, not spectacularly bright (level 4 type child if in state school) but weekly 'grammar preparation' lessons from Year 3 and daily classes / lunchtime clubs etc in run up to test: got in.

It is very largely about test preparation and test technique, sadly,

Is it a grammar school? If so, a lot of schools don't prepare for the 11+, so you may gave to do some work yourself.

Yes, grammar school.

For info about grammar schools and the 11+, you should look at the website

Elevenplusexams.co.uk.

Appeals look at evidence of academic ability only- doesn't matter how good or otherwise the primary school was.