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School admission - reporting parents

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doubletrouble9 · 26/03/2014 20:06

Hi
Anyone know how you would go about prompting the council to do an investigation into addresses on admission forms?
Some people say they had to produce evidence because a parent was suspected, the admission lady was very cagey about it as clearly they didn't want the hassle of an investigation.
thanks in advance

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Report

Lottiedoubtie · 26/03/2014 20:37

But in order to report them all you'd need a list of their names and addresses, you have no legal way of getting this.

'What if they did lie' is spurious, what if they murdered a relative and put him under the patio?are you going to call the murder squad 'just in case'.

EthelDorothySusan · 26/03/2014 20:37

Keep out of it.

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HarrietVaneAgain · 26/03/2014 20:38

So you want the council to investigate all the parents who have been offered places in case one is lying thus freeing up a place for you?

teaandthorazine · 26/03/2014 20:38

but I hear they do not investigate unless a report is made - so can I just pick a name so that everyone gets investigated - I know , I know it's bad

Please tell me this is a joke?

I know school applications can be stressful but honestly, have a word with yourself. What you're considering is really, really shitty.

FiveExclamations · 26/03/2014 20:39

How would you guarantee that the next free place would come to you?

doubletrouble9 · 26/03/2014 20:41

30 got in, we didn't, missed out by0.4 mile, my parents live nearer to the school so that address would have placed us as in that 30 but I was not going to put that on the form.
as for the name calling of b..ch etc - parents lying on forms has increased by 77% since 2009: these people are the nasty b's as you so nicely put it

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Thewildsofnarnia · 26/03/2014 20:41

How do you know you are first on the waiting list? Allocations aren't made until April?

FiveExclamations · 26/03/2014 20:41

Not suggesting you should upgrade your Machiavellian scheme to guarantee that you'd get the place, just pointing out that your idea is probably pointless unless you're the only one who hasn't got in.

Thewildsofnarnia · 26/03/2014 20:42

was this last years class? So the children are all currently in reception?

meditrina · 26/03/2014 20:43

If someone lied, then the place can be removed.

But reporting everyone who secured a place on the off chance that someone lied is wrong: not least for the practical reason that it'll look so wrong to the LEA that they might decide it is all vexatious and investigate none.

If you have reason to suspect a particular family has lied, then report even if information is incomplete. But the basic lead should be good. And about one named family.

Thewildsofnarnia · 26/03/2014 20:43

But you don't know that anyone has lied? Do you? You would be making a false accusation?
You couldn't have out your parents address on the form because it would have been admissions fraud.
I'm confused!

teaandthorazine · 26/03/2014 20:48

OP, can you answer the question as to how you know you would get a place if someone had lied? Are you top of the waiting list? If it's such a sought after school, why do you assume you're the only disappointed one?

curiousgeorgie · 26/03/2014 20:48

0.4 miles is quite a lot to miss out by... 600m is our locals schools whole catchment area.

There's usually quite a bit of movement with waiting lists, are you sure you're first?

Bowlersarm · 26/03/2014 20:48

If you are nearly half a mile from the school, there must be closer children than yours on the waiting list surely.

What an extraordinary plan. Mind boggling.

doubletrouble9 · 26/03/2014 20:53

im first on the waiting list and was the only one to miss out, I walk to school - its my local village and people come in cars...is it so bad to presume that someone may have lied on the form when I see them driving past me and they got in but I have no way of knowing as I don't know who is who so I should just take it on the chin and send my children to the school that is further away and in special measures. thanks

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TheOneWithTheHair · 26/03/2014 20:54

Op, if it's for reception year starting in September you only have to wait a few more days.

If you did this, soon the justification will turn to a guilt and shame you will have to carry the rest of your life. It will affect the relationship you have with the school, your dc, the other parents, everything.

You really need to think hard. Take a deep breath and just think and not in an obsessed way.

Try for some calm.

PatriciaHolm · 26/03/2014 20:55

If you missed by 0.4 miles on a very sought-after school, I can't see how you would be anywhere near the top of the waiting list, so if you did randomly alight on someone doing something they shouldn't you won't get in anyway!

This idea won't work anyway, as you would need to explain exactly what you think was wrong, not just point and go 'waaahhh no fair".

Concentrate on getting the most out of the school you have been allocated, getting on waiting lists, and possibly appealing if you have any grounds (unlikely, but possible).

doubletrouble9 · 26/03/2014 20:55

im first on the waiting list and was the only one to miss out, I walk to school - its my local village and people come in cars...is it so bad to presume that someone may have lied on the form when I see them driving past me and they got in but I have no way of knowing as I don't know who is who so I should just take it on the chin and send my children to the school that is further away and in special measures. thanks

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TheBuskersDog · 26/03/2014 20:55

National offers day isn't until 16th April so how can the OP know who got places?

TheOneWithTheHair · 26/03/2014 20:56

Op, how have you heard the placements already?

teaandthorazine · 26/03/2014 20:56

Don't be chippy, OP.

The system is flawed in many ways but making completely unsubstantiated accusations of fraud against probably innocent people in the hope that it will get you what you want is...well...unhinged, frankly.

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TheOneWithTheHair · 26/03/2014 20:57

X-post with TheBuskersDog.

doubletrouble9 · 26/03/2014 20:57

thanks patricia - its a rural area so we are first on the list despite the distance - I asked admissions

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PatriciaHolm · 26/03/2014 20:58

People drive to school for a myriad of reasons. On their way to work, to collect partners from work, because they have more than one child at the school and moved since the first one got it, because they are lazy. Means nothing.

Yes, you need to concentrate on making the most of the school you have been allocated. Of course, stay on waiting lists - first is a good place to be - but ultimately you need to deal with the hand you've been legitimately given for now, unless private is an option.

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