Is this possible?

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Just looking at the SATs statistics for last year of schools local to us and looked at the school I removed dd from in y1. The ks2 stats therefore relate to the y2's that shared her class. So it says 100% 4b and above and average score 5c.
It's a small school so average year size is 12, back then I used to help out in class along with concerns about the teacher's treatment of my dd (didn't seem to grasp autism/SEN etc) I was also worried because many of the class couldn't read (dd was probably more able than most of y2 and all y1) and lots couldn't spell even the most basic words and some not even their name.
So is it possible (well it obviously is according to statistics) that all children made what would have been miraculous progress for some to average at 5c four years later?

may not be same kids, some will have moved on and others will have moved in.

Yr 2 kids should have an average/expected level of 2b, are you looking at the ks2 scores (end of yr 6).

No pretty much same children as the school photo was in the local paper and dd could name most of them.

Sorry I just re read your post. In a yr of 12 a couple of kids changing might make a difference, so might better teaching and some of the younger ones maturing.

Yes, ks2 scores. I'm only curious to know whether it's not inconceivable that children I remember really struggling to finish four years later well above average and not just 1 or two children the whole year group.

There could be children who did not take the sats if not looking like they would make the grade. You should be able to work that out from the tables.

Change of teacher? Small classes? Careful intervention? What are you criterion referenced evidence judging the children's lack of ability on from when you helped in the class? I'm a bit confused how you know it is the same children?

"on from" whoops = on

Yes. Four years is actually a long period of time to make a difference. Particularly if the children were low attainment because of poor teaching rather than any SEN or other difficulties the children had.

If the school realised that reading/writing was an issue, there may have been an action plan to improve it. All sorts of catch up interventions/teacher training/SEN interventions/new schemes of work/policies could have been put into place over a 4 year period.

with a small number it's very believable.
If you had 100 or even 1000 kids who all improved that much above expected progress, that would be strange.

I don't think that small schools data is easy to interpret as I didn't think it was as 'full' as big schools. To protect the privacy/individual scores of each pupil.

Loofah that makes sense that there would be children not entered. I think if my calculations are right the stats refer to six children so about half the children not entered.
It doesn't seem entirely honest to me though to not declare that only half were entered.

An average of 5c at the end of year 2?! I hope for their sake there's a typo somewhere or they'll be looking for an average of level 7c (above expected level for year 9) to show adequate progress at the end of year 6!

OP meant end of y6, think she made a typo, she says it was yrs ago she pulled her DD out.

Impressed her DD could still name them. Mine couldn't have after yrs.

Ooh. Then 5c is just above expected progress (4a-5b) so definitely possible- especially with only 6 entered!

No, you don't have the option of 'not entering' half the year group. If children are working at a level 2 or below, they are below the level of the tests and are therefore disapplied from sitting the actual test. However, their teacher assessments are still reported and would be included in the overall statistics for the school.

Where are you getting the results from? Doesn't it say how many children in the year group?

MrsK - when my son did ks2 sats there were 2 children who did not enter due to working at level 2. It showed on the league tables but you had to look deep to work it out iyswim. They deffo were not included in the official tables.

Maybe different now though as that was 2 years ago.