Looks like we got an Ofsted Level 4.....what happens next?

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So so sad. Everyone works so hard.

Not had our result yet from Ofsted inspection in November. From doing some digging, it looks like we got Inadequate....not sure in which areas.

MockSted are coming again next week......Where the hell is the Ofsted report and why has it taken so long? We are all on our knees and sooooo demoralised!

So, if we are level 4, what will happen next?

Chocovore

Did your school sucessfully appeal against special measures?

Teaching is something that is part of team. You can individual teachers in a failing school who are outstanding. For example a school might have a lazy SENCO.

No it doesn't. I can understand a HT being removed in those circs though.

I think it must really vary by area. Apart from a section 8 in September, Ofsted have not been back for an inspection since outting us in SM in May. The HT told me herself she is frustrated and has been urging them to come back but they claim they are 'overstretched' and 'not concerned about OUR school".

its all just bonkers. ... All the swings in results stuff is on the achievement of a couple of kids in smaller primaries.... I bet the local secondaries love a few dodgy sats results because it makes them look better. It's just the government trying to push the academies agenda I think. Bloody glad I'm not a teacher is all that I know!

Will expect to wait another month for the report to finally come out then. ....

and how can they NOT be worried about a school in sm?! say what? ??

I thought that Reports [unless disputed] should be published within 3 weeks of inspection?

Exactly brettgirl, the whole thing sucks. We did appeal the SM decision but it wasn't upheld. I don't think anynof them have been.

Not much tutoring that I am aware of. We are a village school with a close community. Our school was only founded in 2010 so no long track record of results either (particularly as the SATs were boycotted one year). So to make any radical judgements seems odd.

Our inspectors were actual Tribal, who specialise in Academy conversion.. .. Need I say more?

My DDs school got roasted by ofsted last year which caused an avalanche of letters detailing what changes were going to improve the situation and who was going to be developed roasted on a spit it was clear certain teachers were having a harder time than others. TBH I thought the previous good rating that had never changed was a crock of shit. I'm quite happy with my DDs school, frankly it would take a miracle worker to get my little cherub lazy mare to get outstanding results. I think most sensible parents realise that teaching is an incredibly difficult stressful occupation and our dc's are often a total PIA, so stuff ofsted I say. And no I am not a teacher cos I was also a lazy mare at school

Well no it isn't clear cut. I have experience of one school where there was both a change of head and the governing body before Ofsted put it in special measures. However this was part of measures to improve the school and when Ofsted came back a year later the school was rated Good. So it does really depend on circumstances.

We had a mocksted and got Req Imp.

2 weeks later we had real Ofsted....they were harsh.

How does it help an under performing school to become an Academy? What is the official reasoning behind this?

"How does it help an under performing school to become an Academy? What is the official reasoning behind this?"

The logic is that school has been failed by the LEA to get in such a mess.
In some cases forced academisation does work, it all depends on who is sponsering the failed school. If the school is being managed by an outstanding school with a similar intake then forced academisation can wok well. However if the sponser is some random who has no educational experience then it can be disaster.

so all academies need a sponsor? What's in it for the sponsor? Unless ideologically driven, do they get paid otherwise?

"so all academies need a sponsor? What's in it for the sponsor? Unless ideologically driven, do they get paid otherwise?"

Depends a lot on the sponsor. Often you get dynamic heads who are keen to build their empire want a challenge, but don't want to leave their outstandting school. At the moment it is very hard to attract high calibre heads to failing schools as the stakes are so high. (Even superheads have to pay the mortgage!) Allowing an outstanding school to federate with a failing school means that the super head is not risking their entire livelyhood.

Unfortunately there are some sponsors who are idealogically driven. I think that forced academisation can work well if the parents have some say who the sponsor is. (Dear Gawd, Please don't let Reg Vardy or Mr Carpetright take over dd's school.)

Academies are businesses and run as such. That doesn't mean they won't do a good job but they do still make money from this.

That isn't the only avenue open to a school. A sponsor could be another outstanding school or Federation who has a certification from the DfE. Sorry I know what it is but I have forgotten.

This school could either come in as a support, with the Executive head teacher taking over the leadership role temporarily. Or it could even become a part of that Federation if that is possible. Or the school could just acts like a consultant providing a plan, systems and support that the failing school either accepts, or doesn't.

The school that's the sponsor gets extra money for providing the support. This will most likely be a set fee decided on prior to intervention.

"Academies are businesses and run as such. That doesn't mean they won't do a good job but they do still make money from this."

At this moment in time academies are not allowed to make profit or act as businesses. The nearest that they get to a business is a social enterprise.

In my area schools which have been academised have sucessfully been turned around. Provided the school has an experienced high quality sponsor then it can work well.

All sounds a bit political to me!!!

And of course they could have been turned around without becoming academies.