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Reception class / reading stage

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Btfly · 13/12/2013 23:08

Is there any mum who have a dd/ds in reception class? I want to ask that which stage level reading book is your dd/ds reading?

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noblegiraffe · 13/12/2013 23:12

DS is on the pink books.

noblegiraffe · 13/12/2013 23:15

Why are you asking?

ReallyTired · 13/12/2013 23:16

I am sure that its a matter of time until some show off someone comes on says that their child is a free reader. (Usually said child is reading Harry Potter or Ronald Dahl aged 4)

Our reception class has a range of books and the children are allowed to pick what they take home. They can pick up anything from pink band up to blue band. Most children pick a book solely on the picture on the front.

At the moment stage 2/3 books are about right for dd. She has an April birthday.

TwinklesTheXmasFairy · 13/12/2013 23:18

DD is still on the horrid ones with no words for some reason. She knows all her 'blue words'..

Think I'm going to have to go in and have a word because have been using the oxford owl website library so she can read the books with words in and have been putting that in the reading record instead of the books they are sending home as there is only so many times you can write "DD explained the story using the pictures... [insert variant on well here]". She has about six pages of the same comment.

FlirtyThirty · 13/12/2013 23:19

Red books.

DS was a non-reader when he started in September, but was fairly fluent in phonic alphabet sounds and letter recognition.

He knows all the allocated 45 reception sight words. But he has always displayed good memory skills so i am not surprised by the speed he picked these up. He can be more reluctant to spund out/blend new words but is doing ok.

I have absolutely no idea what anyone else in his class is on.

AbbyR1973 · 13/12/2013 23:20

At school DS2 (4.6) reads stage 3 books, at home stage 5. I am led to believe by his teacher that he is ahead of the rest of the class however.
I wouldn't worry too much where everyone is at this stage as there will be a huge range, especially on MN. Developmentally there will be a massive spread in reception. I believe "average" is to be yellow band/ ort stage 3 by end of reception.

TwinklesTheXmasFairy · 13/12/2013 23:23

Just realised how posh I sound when I say horrid... I hate that first stage with no pictures though, because how is that helping them learn to read? Or is that just me?

Is OP's school using Jolly Phonics?

ReallyTired- My eldest DD is in year 2 and on stage 5... We have a lot of those boasty parents at the school... I hate the competitiveness, so not worth it!!!

noblegiraffe · 13/12/2013 23:26

I found the wordless books quite interesting, because I assumed DS knew what was going on in the story and it turned out he didn't have a clue why characters were doing stuff.

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Btfly · 13/12/2013 23:27

Thanks mums... Can someone explain or suggest me a source for the differences in colours? I am very confused

Pink band, green band , blue band.., I think green stage 2 is more difficult than pink stage 2..

Thank you for your help

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lougle · 13/12/2013 23:28

The books with no words are fantastic for encouraging children to tell the story without the need to be 'right'. They can emphasise any part of the picture to tell the story. DD3 had 'The big apple' and thought it was hilarious that Floppy is cocking his leg against a tree, so she told a whole story about how boring he was finding apple picking and so he peed up a tree, etc.

DD3's still on stage 1+ books. She's not fussed. Enjoying phonics but when she gets home she leaves it all behind. In fact, tonight she was reading a book and I said 'sound it out, DD3.' She said 'I.don't.want.to.' and told her own version of the story which was much better.

It all comes in the end

noblegiraffe · 13/12/2013 23:37

Does this help?

fdslive.oup.com/www.oup.com/oxed/primary/literacy/ort/ORT_Chart_for_web_.pdf?region=uk

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Btfly · 13/12/2013 23:48

Dear mum(noble giraffe) Thank you so much...you are really very helpful.. Everything is clear now..

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pyrrah · 14/12/2013 16:24

DD's school deliberately don't use reading schemes that are trackable by parents. Haven't had more than one book from any one scheme yet. All I know is that each book has slightly more words than the previous one and is slightly less boring.

As long as they're holding it the right way up and enjoying it, I don't think it really matters where they are as long as the staff aren't flagging up problems.

addictedtosugar · 14/12/2013 16:29

DS can't read.
Sounds like were doing something similar to flirtythirty. We have had 45 card home, which he knows, and can sometimes pick out in a book.
However, if he has read one of the school books once, he can do a pretty good recall of the words from the pictures, rather than actually reading the book on a second outing.

maizieD · 14/12/2013 16:46

addictedtosugar,

Is your ds not learning phonics? How is he with sounding out and blending?

I'm sure you know that memorising a book isn't reading but I expect the school thinks it's fine (it isn't)

And those flaming '45' words, you'd think they were the most important ones in the world, but they're not. They don't even belong with phonics teaching.

It can be very depressing but I have to say that mumsnet gives a good picture of how bad the teaching of reading still is in some (many?) schools

addictedtosugar · 14/12/2013 17:00

Sounding out, OK I think, although a friend earlier this week told me I've got the sounds wrong (N as in nut from me, and being told it should be like the start of noise - how am I supposed to know)
I've written else where, he will sound out W-A-S, and they make it "of". I don't think he's got the idea the letter sounds make the words.

When we first got the cards home, I said he didn't know the whole alphabet yet, and got told it didn't matter, just learn the cards.

I get to school maybe once a month for morning drop off, and so don't get to communicate with the teacher other than via notes in his bag.

I've been hanging out of the teaching reception kids to read threads, and am getting ready to a) prime myself in readiness for b) teaching DS.

But I'm also of the mindset he's just four and a half, and does it matter at the moment??? Not sure.

mrz · 14/12/2013 17:10

(N as in nut from me, and being told it should be like the start of noise - how am I supposed to know) the n sound at the beginning of nut is the same n sound at the beginning of noise and the same n sound at the beginning of know.

I've written else where, he will sound out W-A-S, and they make it "of". he shouldn't be sounding out w-a-s he should be sounding out w-o-z because those are the sounds in the word (the spelling a represents the sound /o/ after the sound /w/ and the spelling s often represents the sound /z/ at the end of words)

SapphireMoon · 14/12/2013 17:45

My ds on the very first colour line [looking at back of latest book].
He has learnt his letter sounds and is sounding out etc but very early on in this reading mularkey.
Teacher very clear to me that all is well and he is just pottering along happily adding layers to his knowledge and reading will progress well when he is ready.

catkind · 14/12/2013 17:50

Mine's just started getting some level 2 songbirds books, not sure what that equates to. Agree with others tho there's a massive range depending on school's approach probably as much as ability. e.g. my DS isn't very good at making up narrative yet, so in some schools he'd still be on wordless books.

Is the 45 sight words a standard thing? DS loves flashcard type games, and i'd rather he knows sight words before they come up so they don't interrupt the story, so looking out for a sensible word list to print out for him.

cece · 14/12/2013 18:00

the books with no words - no idea what colour that is.

cece · 14/12/2013 18:04

Not worried at all. DS1 was 5 and half before he could read. He was level 4 at the end of Yr4 last year so now doing very well with his reading. He still hates it though! If he put any effort into his school work I wonder what he would get!?

addictedtosugar · 14/12/2013 19:16

Ok, I'll add learn to speak at the top of that list then
I'd say nnnut, but noise - a shorter sound.

So, how do I know what he should be able to sound out and what he shouldn't?

mrz · 14/12/2013 19:36

It's the same sound regardless of whether you personally elongate it in your speech.

He should be able to sound out words containing the sounds and skills he has been taught.

maizieD · 14/12/2013 19:40

So, how do I know what he should be able to sound out and what he shouldn't?

I'm afraid that if the school is any good they will only send home words, and books containing words, that he is able to sound out and blend with his current state of phonic knowledge. The fact that they have given you this totally outdated list of words that they think he 'must' learn, with no reference to the significance of the letters of which they are built, tells me that you have problems looming!

Yes, he is only 4 and a half, so still young, but he should know some letter/sound correspondences by now and he should be practising using them to sound out and blend words (not saying he positively must be sounding out and blending, just that he should be practising)

Do go and have a look at the Phonics International website. There is masses of really helpful information on there about phonics and [honics teaching.

www.phonicsinternational.com

Piddlepuddle · 14/12/2013 19:43

All I know is that it is a lot easier second time around. DS2 is still very much on the pink books but enjoying it all (me less so - this is the most frustrating stage I find - the whole s-a-t "bed?!" drives me bonkers!)
But DS1 was just the same, then suddenly "got it" mid way through year 1, and was free reading v early in year 2 (although I appreciate that is positively ancient by mumsnet standards). But it does make me realise that DS2 is doing just fine and will also suddenly get it as well... there is loads of time, and he is really enjoying it all still.

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