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Report: End Coaching Culture for 11 plus

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4Fags · 08/11/2013 13:15

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24850139

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tricot39 · 09/11/2013 18:33

Sounds like a great idea. Thanks for posting.
The Sutton Trust are great!

Anyone know if the % of low income kids going to grammar is any different to historical levels?

Retropear · 09/11/2013 19:20

By those going to private and Outstanding primaries will still have an advantage.

Imvho primary schools have far more of an impact than tutoring.

talkingnonsense · 09/11/2013 19:31

The more secretive they are about the content of the test, the more people will tutor, in order to cover all bases. The more open it is, the more they can be downloaded, bought cheaply, and prepared for at school, the fairer it is.

Retropear · 09/11/2013 19:35

But you can buy them and the 11+ forum site pretty much walks you through it for every area.

Our school already does 2 familiarisation days(great idea).

Retropear · 09/11/2013 19:38

Also if your dc go to an amazing primary there is less need to tutor,there is far more need if your dc go to a primary with lack lustre literacy and numeracy levels.

Private applicants should be banned,they are free of the NC so many teach to the 11+ on top of having smaller classes.This is far more beneficial than an hour of tutoring a week for those stuck in shite primaries.

pyrrah · 10/11/2013 19:43

Why should private school applicants be banned? They are as entitled to a state education as anyone else. You cannot have a state-funded school and exclude any child from applying.

antimatter · 10/11/2013 19:54

different schools use different formats of tests
also - content of VR tests differs

you can't force all those schools to uniformise!

NoComet · 10/11/2013 20:06

talkingnonsence is talking total sense.
At the moment you can walk into WHSmiths and buy a armful of 11+ practice books for sensible money.

If your DC goes to a poor primary with lots of disruptive pupils and no spare energy to stretch the more able, you are sunk with a test based on totally primary learning.

Your only choice is to move house, tutor for at least three years or go private. Way more expensive and far less fair than today.

talkingnonsense · 10/11/2013 20:52

Ha thanks starball! Retro, many areas are moving over to tests you can't buy examples of, ( eg, bucks, Bexley, Kent) and Kent are getting rid of the practice days. Secretive is in at the moment, and I think it is a very bad, unfair and illogical idea.

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