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Dd seems to be slipping backwards in progress, how to approach at parents evening?

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Canthisonebeused · 26/10/2013 11:41

My dd seems to be losing skills she had developed well between reception and y2. I very much felt that in y2 there was a lot of stagnation and dd was going through the motions for sats. Her sat results were all level 3 a or b. My own thoughts at the time were that she was capable of all top level 3 a bit I can understand performance on the day, practice etc affects these results. I tend not to get bogged down levels but it is a bench mark after all so that's what I'm measuring against.

However I have noticed that dd seems unable to spell and use her phonics to decode and make plausible attempts at difficult words, which she has been great at since reception and any word given she would pretty much get right. But now she seems to struggle with words she knows. Y1 she was doing simple times tables at home but not at school, though they were learning the language etc and she was doing fantastically. However for the past 4 weeks she has managed to be stuck on 5 times table in her school tables test. She knows her 5 times table and has been able to work in groups of 5 since YR.

She wasn't terribly happy at school friendship wise last year but did put lots of effort into doing her work and doing things at home. Despite a bit of stagnating which is expected in y2 maybe whilst learning is embedded and sats are focused on, she was progressing.

Since going into y3 I'm a little miffed at the backward steps she seems to be taking. Is not all down to school I understand that, as she has lost interest in reading but she also seems to be less fluent than she ever has bee, she struggles to answer context questions and takes twice as long to read than she previously would. She could easily finish a chapter book in a couple of days, but she has been on the same chapter book for over 2 weeks and is only managing to read a few pages at a time 10 at the most. Where as she would read chapter after chapter.

I want to raise this in parents evening but unsure how to in a way that I won't be told don't worry because she is a high achiever, learning often evens out etc etc. because I worried her progress is diminiousing rather than plateauing, if that makes sence. I'm not sure her new teacher notices this TBH. I don't want to come across as pushy and I don't want to be fobed off, but I want this concern to be taken seriously and find out what can be implemented to help dd. the issue is what exactly is availible for a child who is reaching high levels to be pushed or have extra input to reach their potential, it seems help is rightfully so targeted at those who are under archiving based on national standards but there should also be support for those to reach personal potential.

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strruglingoldteach · 26/10/2013 11:59

I would be focusing on getting to the bottom of why thisis happening- it sounds like quite a change.

A few possibilities spring to mind:
Problems with sight or hearing? Wouldn't hurt to check them.

Something upsetting her or making her anxious? Friendship issues? Any worries at school?

Lack of motivation? Is she being rewarded for effort both at home and school? Are you making a game of things like times tables, letting her play games on the pc or whatever motivates her?

It sounds like you're hoping for extra support to push her, but I'm not convinced that's what she needs. She's obviously capable but has lost her focus for some reason.

Canthisonebeused · 26/10/2013 12:13

Yeah that is how my OP comes across but I'm not necessarily expecting extra help, maybe more that I don't want to be fobbed off and would like some support in helping her get back on track. I'm not sure what that would look like tbh that's why I posted.

She has been wearing glasses since middle of last year and they have helped with things like hand writing, not loosing her place when reading, straining etc. but despite that her reading has diminished recently.

Thug thing with friendships is that she has struggled pretty much since starting with friendship problems and she was at times unhappy as a result but things always seem to peak and troff. This year however that has improved despite a few issues in the first week which have been managed well by the school and talking with dd, she seems happier than she ever has been at school. She has broke away from a couple of the girls who picked on her and has fostered a few more friendships which she seems happy with.

I'm sure it is also motivational, but she puts the same time and effort in from what I see but she seems to be falling behind.

She reads every day to me and on her own she does need to be encouraged with this where as she would happily have pick up a book herself, but this is the only area that she seems to have lost motivation significantly. she plays app games for maths every day focusing on number bonds, times tables and division and we test each other against the clock a couple of times a week, which she loves because I'm terrible at times tables and she marks my work like she is the teacher.

I would be interested to find out what is happening in class, she does get lots of praise, however I did tell her yesterday when she came home with her tables test that I didn't think it was good enough that this is the fourth week she was stuck on 5. Prior to that she seemed to be stuck on her number bonds to 10 so I told her we would have a treat if she got the 20 test the next week, which she did so went out for cake.

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Periwinkle007 · 26/10/2013 12:49

it does sound like something else is going on to make her lose interest. I have no ideas there I am afraid but I would get her eyes checked again as that could seriously affect her reading and eye sight can change really quite quickly sometimes.

Canthisonebeused · 26/10/2013 13:25

She had them checked the week they went back in September. Maybe I could get a check on her hearing. I suppose she could be getting distracted in class. But I have always been under the impression in the past she has been very focused and has always worked and never chats despite what else is happening. However this may have changed now she is more confident with her friendships.

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Periwinkle007 · 26/10/2013 13:51

hm yes that was recent then to have had them checked and as it is at home as well as at school I don't think there can be a link with seating position or white board positioning and lights reflecting or anything.

Any falling out with friends? anything that could be knocking her confidence, could someone have told her she is boring because she likes reading or that they don't want to play with her because she is clever? jealousy from others? is she trying to fit in by not being given harder work?

my eldest is in Yr1, she is producing work way beyond what they expect apparently but she has a lot of problems of her own which I am concerned are being overlooked because all they see is that she is doing well so I know where you are coming from.

Periwinkle007 · 26/10/2013 13:53

do you think she might be very very bright and has therefore managed to cover up a processing problem somehow? I am about 99% certain my daughter is dyslexic but she can read and write well.

juniper9 · 26/10/2013 14:11

How is she at home? Can she focus on other tasks for any length of time? Is she able to speak clearly and fluently without pausing or losing her chain of thought? Is she still using advanced vocabulary?

It seems like a big change, and if you say she still seems to be ploughing on, rather than her purposefully not bothering, then you really do need to identify what's happened.

One thing I hear often, on here and from parents in RL, is that the expectations within year 3 are far higher. I teach year 3 so try to ease the children into it, but more is expected to be done independently. Maybe she's taking a bit of time to adjust to the new approach.

Has she changed playgrounds? Does she eat in the same place and at the same time? How does she get on with her teacher? Are you sure there isn't some subtle bullying going on?

Does your school offer a drop in counselling service?

lljkk · 26/10/2013 16:14

this thread reinforces my prejudice that success at school is 85% about having a successful social life.

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