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is it still 2 sublevels progress per year in ks2?

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applebread · 24/10/2013 23:09

Ds is 5c now so I am trying to work out what he's expected to get at the end of this year and next.

Should it be 5a then 6b then 7c then 7a etc?

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simpson · 24/10/2013 23:30

What year is he in?

My DC school say one full level every 2 years although kids can progress more than this obviously.

strruglingoldteach · 25/10/2013 06:46

At least 2 sublevels a year- that counts as good progress. However, schools will be looking to move them even further if possible.

PotteringAlong · 25/10/2013 06:47

Officially sub levels no longer exist!

BoundandRebound · 25/10/2013 06:51

Children do not progress in a linear fashion - they go in leaps and bounds and consolidate so no school ever expects 2 sub levels per year that's just what happens when you draw a line from a 2b at KS1 to a 4b

And there are no sub levels

And it will be moving to a 1,2,3 and a centile report

And at primary they should learn to love learning - end of

BoundandRebound · 25/10/2013 06:52

All this focus on levels ruins education Sad and we have to ignore them at secondary anyway because they are not representative of ability or knowledge

Sigh

Spits

strruglingoldteach · 25/10/2013 06:54

Boundandrebound schools do indeed require 2 sublevels- mine does! Ok, technically it's 4 APS points, but it works out the same.

MaureensWhites · 25/10/2013 06:56

What year is he in? The jump from 5 to 6 is a huge one. It involves covering things (in Maths) that aren't usually part of the primary school curriculum. At the end of year 6 they just get a level from the SATS eg 4 or 5 rather than a subdivision (in yet another anomaly in the system) but their teacher should be able to give you their subdivision from teacher assessment - not the actual government test.

Feenie · 25/10/2013 06:57

Actually, it isn't even a line from 2b to 4b, because it's good progress, not satisfactory. Two sublevels per year from y2 would take this fictional child to 5c in year 6.

MaureensWhites · 25/10/2013 06:58

Sorry, that didn't answer your question particularly, yes 2 although schools are being pushed to get children to make 3 (and while they're at it learn how to spin straw into gold...)

applebread · 25/10/2013 07:00

He's in y3. I am wondering what the school will do with him when he gets past the usual ks2 stuff and trying to get an idea of when that will be.

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anyclamfucker · 25/10/2013 07:20

He's been assessed at a 5c in the Autumn term of year 3??

Who by?

mrz · 25/10/2013 07:20

Officially sub levels have never existed ... children are officially expected to make 2 levels progress over a key stage.

Level 5 is the expected level for a 14 year old (end of KS3). Often young child have the skills for higher levels but don't have the maturity or experience to understand concepts so progress slows.

applebread · 25/10/2013 07:34

By his teacher anyfucker, I'm not a tiger parenting loon. I thought you got banned?

Thanks mrz - I do expect him to slow down as children under 10 haven't gone through the developmental brain growth that lets them really get to grips with abstract concepts, but I'm wondering what will happen when he gets to y5 and y6 and thinking about moving to the private sector if their provision will suit him better at that stage. Probably can't afford it so just trying to planahead. His school have done a quite good job in the last year but he didn't have anything to do in reception or y1 maths as he was into negative and imaginary numbers when his teacher was trying to get him to count to 5.

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Farewelltoarms · 25/10/2013 07:39

I always thought it was 1-2 a year ie one full level over two years?

keepsmiling12345 · 25/10/2013 07:57

If his teacher assesses him as a 5c she has presumably been working hard to give him differentiated work so he is at that level. Also, if she has assessed him at that level, she will be telling you what she plans to do next to support him making progress. Is he 5c across the board or just in maths?

applebread · 25/10/2013 08:22

He's certainly not 5c across the board - he got is a good reader but with writing he does the minimum he can get away with. He's just ahead in maths. I don't know about differentiation as he goes to do maths lessons in a different year group.

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mrz · 25/10/2013 17:37

State primary schools teach level 6 + applebread it should not be a problem

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