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Hi
Went to parents eve on Monday and was told by my dd year 3 teacher that they only expect them to lift one sub level this year is this normal????
Thanks.

They're expected to make six sub levels progress over 4 years so on average 1.5 levels per year. Most schools aim for more than this though as Ofsted don't consider typical progress to be enough any more.

It all depends on how they did the year before. If they progressed through two sub levels the previous year, they would only need to progress one this year to stay on track.

However I would be concerned if this was a blanket policy. Nationally year 3 has always had a bit of a dip but that shouldn't stop aspirational target setting.

Hi dd teacher has said the whole class will only move sub level and that even children on top table will only go to a 3b and there on a 3c at the moment. Yet 4 years ago my dd was expected 2 sub levels and came out 3a/4c.

I wonder if the school is describing 'good/expected' progress as one level and 'excellent' progress as two levels as, as Fuzzymum1 says, Ofsted how view 'expected' as 'not good enough'.

It's bloody bonkers, isn't it?

I've taught Year 3 many times. Yes, it is the expected "norm" that children will only make 1 sub-level during this year. Apparently research has attributed this to "developmental" reasons that occur at this age. However, in my experience children some children in Year 3 will still make 2/3 or even 1 whole level of progress.

Also, it is correct as stated above that children are expected to make a whole level across two years, so if they make 1/3 level in Year 3, they would be expected to do 2/3 in Year 4.

Yes, somewhere along the line, an expectation has been set that 2/3 of a level (i.e. 2 sub-levels) is normal and that anything less means the teacher should be sacked.

Thanks Gove.

The expectation is a level in 2 years, so 1 sublevel in Year 3 would be in line with this (particularly bearing in mind different expectations for KS2). DS certainly made 1 sublevel progress in everything in Y3, and then went on to make 2-3 sublevels progress in Y4, so at least a level in everything.