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Sythetic Phonics experts needed please

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Sonnet · 22/06/2006 11:01

My dd2 is 5 and in her last term of reception. She has been taught to read using a variety of methods, jolly phonics, whole word recognition. I am satisfied with her reading progress (ginn level 5). I am concerned though that she appears to be heavily reliant on her memory to remeber words. She is very enthusiastic about reading and keen to read to me. I was wondering whether to harness this interest and do some phonics work with her at home for the remander of the term and over the hols.

Could anybody point me in the right direction about where I should start and how I go about it

I would like to add that I am not a pushy parent - I don't care where my children are in a reading scheme, all I care about is that they have a love of books and love reading!!

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frogs · 22/06/2006 11:03

Get hold of Diane McGuiness's book Why Children Can't Read. Great book and really explains the rationale for the different approaches.

Sonnet · 22/06/2006 11:30

thanks will try amazon now....

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singersgirl · 22/06/2006 11:35

She is probably beyond the basic Jolly Phonics handbook, which I found brilliant. I would also recommend Ruth Miskin Literacy (haven't got a link, but the programme has been bought by OUP now), which has some good flashcards for reinforcing the sound-symbol correspondences (the 'oo' one has a picture on the back of an elephant keeper shovelling pooh with the phrase 'Poo at the zoo', for example). The books are good too as they each focus on a a particular sound/spelling pattern.

Your daughter sounds as if she is reading well anyway, but you will help her become an effortless reader if you teach her the phonic correspondences explicitly now. Have fun!

Sonnet · 22/06/2006 12:02

Hi Singersgirl, I have investigated the ruth miskin website after seeing it mentioned on some archived mumsnet threads - I am a bit unsure of the level of the books - would like basics but not too basic IYKWIM!!.Flashcards sound good though...
Yes, I think she is byond the jolly pohonics.

I think I will start going over the jolly phonics sounds as revision...

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gladbag · 22/06/2006 12:28

I second the recommendation for Diane McGuiness's book Why Children Can't Read, although it won't give you activities as such, but a good understanding of the learning process.

You could try the Jolly Grammar Handbook which is what follows on from Jolly Phonics into Y1.

singersgirl · 22/06/2006 12:44

I started with the orange level, since DS2 was reading quite well already, but they were a bit easy, and the yellow and upwards were more suitable. But I don't know the Ginn scheme so am not sure what Level 5 corresponds to - it sounds quite high to me.

I got the black and white books which weren't too expensive.

Jolly Grammar is good for teaching spelling patterns etc - I bought it though I haven't used it.

Sonnet · 22/06/2006 14:22

Thanks for the recommendation Gladbag - will look into that
Singersgirl - I thaught the black and whites were good value!! - don't know where Ginn level 5 is in the grand scheme of things at all - I know it appears more difficult that ORT level 5. She is a fab reader and is so enthusiastic...it would be easy to push her "up" the reading scheme but I don't feel that is the way to go. (I cannot explain it, just a gut feel I have). I have heard you all talk so knowledgebly about phonics and it just seems the way to go.
I will purchase a coupl eof yellow books and see how we go
Thanks so much for oyur input - I will let you all knopw how we get on!!

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singersgirl · 22/06/2006 15:03

Yes, a friend showed me some Ginn 3 the other day and I thought they were roughly ORT 5 or 6. So 5 sounds pretty good for the end of Reception.

tenalady · 22/06/2006 15:26

what is ginn stand for. It took me all of the thread to understand ort. My ds reads oxford reading tree too! I do hate abbrev.

singersgirl · 22/06/2006 16:56

I think Ginn is just called Ginn . Sorry about the abbreviations - I've been listening to children read in school for so long it all seems to make perfect sense to me now...

tenalady · 22/06/2006 18:40

Ha must google that then

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