Fantastic Mr Fox

[wigglywoowoo]

Can anyone tell me what book band this is please?

Don't know. But here's a mumsnet discussion about levelling The Twits www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/908129-Can-someone-relate-The-Twits-in-terms-of-reading-level/AllOnOnePage

I don't know if somebody very young, such as a a Reception child, reading Mr Fox with relative ease means that the same child should be on a comparatively high book band or whether or not it means anything at all. Sometimes there seems to be some skulduggery surrounding which teachers give which children which books. In a perfect world it should probably mean something. But in the world that we live in it may not.

I would guess at 11 or 12, probably 12 but then I haven't read it for ahem well since I was a child. My daughter doesn't yet seem to like the ideas of Roald Dahl books. Proper chapter books that aren't early reader ones are normally 11 or higher. I think Horrid Henry, Rainbow Fairies and many Dick King-Smith are 11 but Famous Five etc would be higher so I guess Fantastic Mr Fox is about 12.

www.arbookfind.co.uk/default.aspx

This levelling system is American. The 4 means it is generally suitable for 4th grade children (yr5) the .1 would be 1mnth into 4th Grade. Middle years is the interest level, that is maturity of themes.

Do you mean the colour bands?

I don't know off hand. Possibly Gold or White?

I think it is higher than gold or white hulababy. My daughter is on lime and I think probably COULD read it but I probably wouldn't yet

We have a whole range of chapter books in Lime which I would say are far more difficult than The Twits though, hence my guess. In Gold and White we have smaller chapter books - the 4/5 chapter style ones.

DD found The Twits much easier than FMF.

I would guess at stage 12 too. I know that most Horrid Henry books are stage 11/12 (level 3) so would guess its about the same.

the small chapter books are all about 10/white I think yes, the new chapter Winnie the Witch ones are classed as 11/lime if I remember right.

Is Fantastic Mr Fox one of the shorter ones? if so then 10-11 possibly, I just think Roald Dahl's books take a certain level of maturity to really read them properly. I would put Charlie and the Chocolate factory at 12ish myself but the magic finger at perhaps 10.

I didn't mean the magic finger - I meant the crocodile one

Ah yes, sorry, getting mixed up after reading Op and then the linked thread! The Twits I'd say Gold/White. FMF Lime+

IMO FMF is easier than Charlie and James and the Giant Peach.

I don't know which RD book is the easiest but DD started with The Magic Finger (I would put at 9 or 10) and then Esio Trot (10)

The Twits is longer (but easier) than FMF.

My year 2 son is reading fantastic Mr Fox in bed at night - he's just 7. He's getting level 30 from school at at the moment.

Incidentally he was only reading yellow level at the start of year 1!

I love esio trot. teg reggib reggib.

The Enormous Crocodile

I think that one is basically a picture book.

oh is it L&S? I gave it to DD1 in the shop to look at along with a few others to choose one and she rejected it along with magic finger and most of the others. I just glanced at it so thought i was like the early reader chapter books which are generally a 10ish from what I can gather

No way is it a picture book.

I think The Magic Finger is easier actually.

Karoleann - Esio Trot has been DD's favourite so far

Thanks for the replies. I thought it was about white (book band 10) but that was just my guess. I was struggling to find anything that would tell me where it fitted exactly.

I think it is definitely harder than 10. The ones we have that I would say are 10s are the early reader ones like the Kitten with No Name, Julia Donaldson's Animals in School (the Wrong kind of Bark and the Quick Brown Fox Cub) most of the Usborne Young Reading Series 1 books. Primarily I think because they are all around 50-60 pages, biggish font, colour pictures, smaller number of chapters etc. When you get to 11 like the Winnie the Witch chapter books you have the smaller font, much more text on a page, black and white sketch type pictures and fewer of them. then I THINK 12s are normally the full on chapter books.

to be honest language wise I don't see an enormous difference between them but grammar wise I can. the use of commas to give more information, the sentences going over the page, the complexity of the storyline and so on.

it isn't listed on here but these are book boxes schools can buy of levelled non scheme books. a couple of them have lime and beyond lime books listed
content.yudu.com/Library/A22edt/BadgerBandedReadingB/resources/index.htm?referrerUrl=http%3A%2F%2Ffree.yudu.com%2Fitem%2Fdetails%2F750022%2FBadger--Banded--Reading-Boxes

The thing with the RD books (I have noticed it with The Twits, FMF, The Magic Finger and The Enormous Crocodile) is that they seem to be printed in 2 different formats ie picture book style (bigger print, bigger pictures but identical story iyswim).

So this may be why some people think they are picture books and others chapter books if that makes sense.

Peri - DD loved The Kitten with no Name oh and The Quick Brown Fox Cub (she went in to school and told her teacher she knew a sentence with every letter in the alphabet in )

hehe - that sentence is my reserve show and tell in case she can't think of something one week!

Luckily DD remembered it (or not ) as its a library book.

What type of things does she have to do for show and tell then ??

DD has to take specific things in ie a photo of her in the park/on beach etc or a book about a specific thing (robbers - she took in Burglar Bill).

robbers? what on earth did they all take for that? wow no ours are just anything. most of them take toys (I think princess celestia has been taken in by about 10 of the girls!) but I am cruel and tell her she can't take a toy as I don't think it really helps with anyone learning anything or for her to talk about something. She has taken in a poster of half term with a few pictures of things she has done and a bit of writing, a family tree, a pie chart showing her enthnicity, certificate, autumn stuff she found in the garden, craft things she has made, pictures and writing of an experiment she did that had been in one of her reading books from school, her favourite usborne book. that kind of thing. I am dreading september though as I have just found out she will still be doing it in yr1 and my youngest will be in reception so I will have 2 of them doing it. Now both of them think they have to make/draw/write something to take in as the teacher likes it! perhaps I should have just sent in a toy in the first place...

That link is very interesting Periwinkle there is no way I would have put the Twits as beyond Lime.

DD is in year 1 and is reading and understanding FMF and Winnie chapter books with such ease I thought they must be much lower than where the school have her banded. She reads the levelled school books in quite a stilted fashion, but when she gets these types she blitzes them.

Oh God and I thought DD's was bad!

Someone took "What the ladybird saw" someone else took "Mr Creep the Crook" I don't know any more...(they were learning about emergency services I believe).

We have Fantastic Mr Fox banded as brown (3b off the top of my head).

well she could just take anything Simpson - it was my fault for getting her to make something the first week and then because she got a lot of praise for it she always wants to do something like that now. stupid stupid mummy.

I must admit wigglywoowoo I did wonder about some of the beyond lime ones but they say they have all be leveled by a group of teachers and experts or something so must be about as accurate as any school boxes I suppose. I expect some of it is based on length. See my daughter can read almost any type of poetry with no trouble, even obscure stuff, she can read non fiction easily up to level 11 and she can read the scheme fiction books at 11 fine, she can read early reader chapter books but the more traditional longer chapter books would panic her. partly because of her processing problem but partly because I think she just isn't ready for them. Dick King-Smith is ok but his books are usually skinny. Winnie is ok because she was familiar with the character so she agreed to try it. Perhaps it is just your daughter's preferences coming out?