Good reader but poor comprehension book suggestions please

[Daisyfield]

Ds can read well at about level 2a/3c but his understanding is very poor. Can anyone suggest a scheme that will challenge his reading whilst supporting his lack of understanding?
Thanks

Is it schemes which fix this kind of thing or practice with discussing stories? I'd start with discussing stories in general, (there are supposed to be only seven plots) who, what, where, when, why and so on. Then make some stories with him and discuss the wwwww, then slightly harder ones and so on.

Thanks. We have been doing that for a while but he is desperate for some books that aren't for babies! His words not mine! The early readers are a struggle and I hoped there might be something available for him to aid independence and stop him getting fed up.

what sort of bookband is 2a/3c? I have a list of some non scheme but banded books which might help. I am not very up on books for boys as I have girls but have you tried the Corgi pups ones that Sainsburys have now published? they are cheap and they are like early readers but not that complex in storyline and entertaining. I would think there is quite a bit to discuss.
or what about the Usborne young reading (think thats what they are called) they do stories of pirates, stories of fairies (probably not his cup of tea) various fairytale ones etc. they are nicely illustrated which I think helps keep interest. Don't rule out non fiction for comprehension. the usborne beginners ones are great and I think they can create a lot of opportunity for discussion, what is the most important fact on that page etc.

How about you doing the reading and asking him questions?

I think 2a/3c is around white or lime

Not sure on the book band but normally gets ORT level 5 or 6 and they are a bit dull now! I'll have a look at the corgi pups. We have a few early readers but he struggles a little with them. He loves books about the sea and boats and we share them together.
Thanks

I should add that Ds was 9 last month and is in year 4 so the content of some of the books is a little young for him.

ok so try some of the usborne non fiction ones first, encourage him to enjoy them as that is the key part, if he likes reading it he is more likely to take in what it is telling him and if it is about something he already knows some of he will be more confident. I agree you could do the reading and discuss it with him or read it together.

ORT stage 5 or 6 is nowhere near a 2a/3c level.

So is he being given boos that match his comprehension rather than his decoding? ORT level 5 or 6 is Reception/Y1 level. I'd be going back to the school and seeing if they think he has a particular difficulty with his comprehension and what they are doing to improve it and what they suggest you can do to help. What was his Y2 SATs level for reading?

Books, not boos!

We often recommend Barrington Stoke books to secondary school pupils who struggle with reading (2a/3c would be considered struggling for, say, a year 7). There is a large range of different genres and many are written by credible writers. The aim of the series is to create age-appropriate content combined with easier comprehension. You might find some of the stories a bit teenage for a 9 year old, but that might attract him. They only take an adult 15 mins to read so easy to check whether you're happy for him to read them.

Oops, sorry, didn't read the posts in the middle of the thread. I'm secondary rather than primary do don't know the ORT. If he is reading at a yr 1 level it might well be that the books are too difficult for him. Worth a try though.

I work in a secondary school library and would not recommend Barrington Stoke for a 9yr old. We have lots. They are for poorer readers who are much older than 9.

The Boys Rule series would be perfect.
Some of the series like Ghouls at School. I would go to public library.

Dav Pilkey - Ricky Ricotta's Mighty Robot series, or Captain Underpants?

Horrid Henry early readers? But TBH, there's not much at ORT level 6 that isn't very formulaic. Maybe some of the ORT fact books, like fireflies?

ORT stage 5 or 6 is nowhere near a 2a/3c level.

this It's a 1c/1b, possibly a 1a. I think you need to be asking questions at school if they've given his level as a 2a/3c

If the child is 9 and reading NC level 1 isn't it just going to be a struggle to find interesting/suitable books? Isn't it more likely the child is reading 2a/3c and mum has just got the ORT stage wrong?

Daisyfield, do you know why your DS's comprehension is poor? Does he have a Speech and Language issue?

I have started doing Language for Thinking with DD2. It is a structured programme to build comprehension and language skills.

It might be worth a try, rather than trying to find books that will match his current comprehension?

Working on oral language skills is also supposed to be helpful for children who are good at word-level decoding but weak at comprehension.

Tom Gates Genius Ideas - looks fat but pictures/doodles every page, not many words per page and humorous.
There are some Skylander books if he is into the game. You could read alternate pages?
Tintin graphic books are good if you pick carefully (some contain dated attitudes).

Language for Thinking is a structured programme with over 50 scenarios. It uses progressive questions, so that the child can start at a level which is comfortable and have their language developed gradually.

DD2 is quite disordered in her language but we are still waiting for SALT referral. She is good at decoding, but struggles to see the story beyond the concrete facts.

www.arbookfind.co.uk/UserType.aspx

This site works according to the accelerated reading programme. It is American, so books are given a figure that matches up to a Grade. Third Grade is our Year 4, the decimal is months in that Grade. The book's content is deemed suitable for either early years, middle years etc. Year 4 will be between early and middle years in content.

The beauty of this is you can select a book with more mature content and easier reading or visa versa. The book finder link I have shown gives books available in the UK market.

HTH

I can also recommend Language for Thinking to improve comprehension skills.