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The lack of correction of Spelling by Primary Schoolteachers

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ELIlford · 10/06/2013 13:09

This is a real irritation, In short my children will have their school homework marked, particularly work completed by themselves with a tick from their teachers ...Oh Great work Well Done etc etc etc and there will be poor grammar and spelling mistakes, not corrected.

Other parents within their classes also agree

This state primary he goes to in London is meant to be according to Ofsted Brilliant and outstanding, however not in my books.

I know the old cliche it was better in my day but my siblings and I undertook an independent school education ( Which our parents sacrificed alot for)all at Primary and the teaching was very strict on spelling grammar and Arithmetic.

I worry seriously about their future and am thinking the private route may be the sacrifice that will warrant proper teaching, as the academic standard is poor in this so called outstanding school.

Any comments interested to hear from those in independent sector if they have found the same problem......!!!!

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SirChenjin · 11/06/2013 19:24

I think it's more valid to discuss your inability to form a coherent argument

toomuchicecream · 11/06/2013 20:09

And until you acknowledge the point made by several people up thread, that there is a difference in the way homework and classwork is marked, there's no point in talking sense to you.

superbadspeller · 11/06/2013 20:14

My dd is 8 and her spelling is abysmal. I too have seen well done and big ticks on her work which leaves me utterly confused. My spelling was marked out in green at school and spoken over to see what i was doing wrong. I really wish her teacher would make a bigger deal about it but phonics are all the rage these days and as she uses them and is a great reader she doesn't need help Confused

I let the school get on with it as i know her teacher is fantastic - i just worry to myself.

learnandsay · 11/06/2013 20:15

If my daughter was a bad speller I'd do something about it.

JenaiMorris · 11/06/2013 20:36

I'm not a teacher, no. I work with the public sector, with SMEs and with some of the largest firms on the planet. Proper, big, global capitalist organisations - people making more in a week than Gove does in a year (or a month, I might be getting over excited here).

I just get suspicious when people make bizarre posts that don't mean anything, OP.

HumphreyCobbler · 11/06/2013 20:37

People do not remember their own schooling accurately and tend to extrapolate their ability at a certain age backwards and assume they were at a higher level at an earlier age than they actually were.

Teachers DO correct spellings. They teach spelling. Teaching phonics is teaching spelling as well as reading. Teachers teach grammar. If you think your child's school is not doing this appropriately go and ask them the reasons behind their methods, but do assume that they know what they are doing as they probably do. If you really think they are stupid enough not to teach spelling in the most appropriate way, then what on earth are you doing leaving your children in their care?

All these armchair experts are getting on my nerves now. I am utterly fed up with people who know nothing about it, apart from their own inaccurate memories of their own schooling, assuming teachers are so stupid that we are deliberately buggering up their child's education.

JenaiMorris · 11/06/2013 20:55

God I sound like a wanker there, sorry Blush

Humph, people's opinions are baffling. It's bad enough being a parent with a school age child a listening to this bollocks.

HumphreyCobbler · 11/06/2013 21:02

you didn't sound like a wanker at all Jenai!

HarumScarum · 11/06/2013 21:11

Jenai, you sound perfectly sensible to me. The OP, OTOH, is a loon whose prep school education hasn't equipped her with the basics of the English language.

superbadspeller · 11/06/2013 21:12

Dds grammar is good.. her understanding is excellent i just can't read half of what she writes myself but as her teacher is happy i'm happy. Once primary 5/6/7 comes around i'm sure i'll be on here singing her praises with an unashamed stealth boast Grin

FannyMcNally · 11/06/2013 21:41

One thing we teach 5/6 year olds in state schools is to not put random capital letters in the middle of a sentence. Did they teach that at your school op?

BlackeyedSusan · 11/06/2013 22:58

How long would it take to mark 30 books in detail? What else should the teacher give up in order to do this marking?

Crumbledwalnuts · 12/06/2013 06:41

"If my daughter was a bad speller I'd do something about it."

And the devil take the poor disadvantaged children whose parents can't.

xylem8 · 12/06/2013 10:57

I first read the title as 'Lack of correct spelling by primary teachers'.I find this bloody annoying!

learnandsay · 12/06/2013 11:01

And the devil take the poor disadvantaged children whose parents can't.

Well, not necessarily the devil, maybe Apples & Pears. But I agree with you in one respect; I do have enormous sympathy for children whose parents don't frequent web fora, libraries or parents evenings and don't know what's going on.

learnandsay · 12/06/2013 11:01

Or don't have parents.

ELIlford · 12/06/2013 14:57

Its Interesting that yesterday Gove and the ConDem coalition have issued in Parliament via their upcoming White Paper that SPELLING and GRAMMAR will be specifically identified and marked for the changes to GCSE's for candidates from 2017.

Diane Abbott for Labour stated:
I said in today's education debate, an emphasis on academic rigour and core academic qualifications is not against the interests of working-class children. On the contrary, the children who need academic rigour and "gold-standard" qualifications the most are precisely those who are the first in their family to stay on beyond the official school leaving age, whose families do not have parents "who can put in a word for them" in today's horrible job market.

A change is coming, and certainly the marking of spelling and grammar will be integral, to the above.Whether you agree with it or not!!

Today's job market is truly multinational, wherever your talent lies, requires the above and many parents are concerned that spelling and grammar for children not being marked by the class teacher is a concern.

The Question is what should happen as we will find that if this bill proposed by Gove goes through swathes of children will surely be disadvantaged. The result will surely be to the advantage of those taught correct spelling and Grammar.

Now Now JennaiMorris no need to use vulgar language. Many persons have worked with and for the largest/Major Organisations in the world yes even me too.

HumphreyCobbler JennaiMorris and others it appears that airing your dissatisfaction within Schools particularly State schools is similar to the response questioning areas of the NHS and many people get offended and flustered by the mere cheek of uttering such a statement...Well they do make mistakes plenty of them!!!! Get used to it and worst of all it affects our CHILDREN!!!!

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Feenie · 12/06/2013 18:46

The result will surely be to the advantage of those taught correct spelling and Grammar.

In the new spirit of picking up Every Single Mistake, what IS it, OP, with your silly random capitals?

Interesting, Schools, Grammar, Question, Now, Major, Organisations and State do not need capital letters you loon.

HumphreyCobbler · 12/06/2013 18:56

I am sure we could all offer some tips on appropriate use of commas.

ELIlford · 12/06/2013 19:26

Feenie the point is about the children YOU CLOWN.....the sarcasm is so Anglo Saxon...and pointless

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piprabbit · 12/06/2013 19:30

Marking homework? You mean a teacher actually looks at DCs homework and gives them some sort of feedback? What a strange concept, certainly doesn't happen around here.

clam · 12/06/2013 19:38

Sorry, OP, but any point you're trying to make is totally lost within the ramblings of your incoherently expressed English.

ELIlford · 12/06/2013 19:46

OK Clam if you say so...

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juniper9 · 12/06/2013 20:08

piprabbit there is plenty of evidence that homework has no benefit, so perhaps you should be happy that the teacher is using their precious time to do things that might actually enable progress.

OP, like the others, I really cannot read past your poor use of apostrophes and random capitalisations. It's very distracting.

As for the comp= Tesco comment, my siblings and I all went to state schools and our secondary school later went into special measures. Both my brother and sister went to Oxford- one went on to be a neurologist and the other was the online editor of parenting website (not this one). I became a lowly teacher. Perhaps I should have Capitalised Randomly like yourself, and then I may have achieved more?

SirChenjin · 12/06/2013 20:31

If you read the whole thread ELI you'll see that it's not only Clam who 'says so'.