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230,000 classroom assistants face axe

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mrz · 02/06/2013 09:58

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Education/article1268217.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2013_06_01

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freetrait · 02/06/2013 22:49

Yeah, one size doesn't fit all does it. What would teachers like mrz do if they were in government re improving what happens now?

radicalsubstitution · 02/06/2013 22:54

This is not just about schools' budgets.

The budget for Access to Work - the government funded scheme that supports organisations who employ disabled workers - has also been slashed. Many schemes - such as 'fares to work' have all but disappeared.

This is all part of the government's plan to push the burden of 'funding' responsibilities under the Equalities Act towards organisations/companies rather than the government. Unfortunately, when those 'organisations' are government funded in the first place, the money just has to go round and round...

GeorgianMumto5 · 02/06/2013 22:55

I'm a TA (1:1). I'm also a mum, a qualified teacher with QTS and I can spell, thanks very much. I chose to do this job and I love it. I am paid a pittance and give a lot of my free time to preparing resources and researching effective ways of supporting my 1:1. I don't babysit my 1:1; I teach, support and enable my charge to access the curriculum. I do the same when I'm working with a group, too. (I take groups too, because it suits my 1:1 to work in a group for some lessons.)

Cries of, 'Oh, TAs are just mums who can't spell/teach/tie their own shoelaces,' upset me. I take great pride in my work and I can see that what I do makes a difference.

BeQuicksieorBeDead · 02/06/2013 23:02

My TAs are brilliant. I honestly couldnt deliver the curriculum we do, without their support. With lots of medical SEN children, medicine to administer, four year olds missing mum and dad, outdoor activities, guided craft and art, toileting issues, poor baseline for language (ie kids come in unable to speak) I could not teach everything I need to cover without the team. This worries me greatly.

Redlocks30 · 02/06/2013 23:32

I would rather have a smaller class than a TA, given a choice. I rather suspect that won't be a choice I'll be given though.

GeorgianMumto5 · 03/06/2013 00:04

Redlocks, I'd almost be up for that. As you say, though, I don't think it will be an option.

Redlocks30 · 03/06/2013 08:08

I presume it's a cost-cutting exercise but I didn't read the article in full. Won't it just raise the numbers of unemployed in their stats?! The government can't send all parents back to work and then remove 230, 000 jobs, or can they...!?

FannyMcNally · 03/06/2013 08:14

I hope the Fawcett Society will lobby the government over this. After all a very high percentage of the 230,000 will be women. And to be devalued as a 'mums' army' is humiliating and sexist.

Redlocks30 · 03/06/2013 09:08

Though if budgets do need to be cut, is that a relevant argument?

prh47bridge · 03/06/2013 10:38

I suspect the Sunday Times story is part of the political manoeuvring around the current spending review. The story seems to have come from sources within the Treasury and it is said they are proposing this "as part of negotiations over cuts to departmental budgets", i.e. as part of the spending review. It is fairly normal for the Treasury to float stories of unpalatable cuts that they will impose if a department fails to come up with its own cuts. It is a way of putting pressure on the department to settle with the added bonus that the minister responsible can claim they have fought the Treasury to protect, in this case, TAs.

Of course this may happen but in my experience it would be more likely if the proposal was coming from the DfE rather than the Treasury.

HappyMummyOfOne · 03/06/2013 12:10

Schools manage their own budgets, SEN funding has been heavily cut and the school has to decide if they pay x on staff or x elsewhere.

Some TA's are fab and some are clearly only in the role as the term time working suits them. Most jobs have good and bad staff so no different.

The head and governors agree the budget so can decide for themselves.

Its quite interesting to see so many against cuts in the budget yet so many on here begrudge the schools asking for money for trips and fundraising to purchase things for the school. Not everything can be funded through taxes given the state of the "pot" at present.

Ilovemyrabbits · 04/06/2013 17:30

I read Georgianmum's post and could almost have written it, but I'm not a qualified teacher. I am just a 'mum' who went into school to help out when my daughter was little and developed an interest in literacy and teaching children to read. I came from a managerial background I volunteered initially and was then taken on to support a child in class who had severe behavioural difficulties.

I have voluntarily trained myself up to NVQ 3 level, but am paid as a level 2 TA. I am now tasked to work one to one with a child who has additional educational needs and some physical issues and, in addition, I work 1:2 with children who are having difficulties with reading. My success rate over the last 2 years in this respect have been really good . I've had great feedback from management and parents alike.

I plan and create resources, mostly in my own time, and I believe I contribute positively to the progress of the children I work with. I know that the majority of Teaching Assistants in my school are educated, committed individuals who care deeply about what they do. As with any other profession, however, there are people who are in the wrong job.

I know that my days as a TA are probably numbered. If I thought this was for the benefit of the kids, I'd be delighted, but let's be honest here, this is all about saving money. Some schools may be able to employ extra teachers to take on the demands of children with SEN or the gifted and talented children, but most won't be able to do this. The teachers will end up with this burden instead. I really worry about what's happening with our education system and this is far from surprising.

Redlocks30 · 04/06/2013 18:10

I can see teaching assistants going, definitely. I think it'll be one teacher for one class like it used to be. There is also talk of removing the list of tasks (21?) that teachers don't have to do. I reckon the days of PPA are numbered as well, sadly.

Boooo

SuburbanRhonda · 04/06/2013 19:11

And the 230,000 unemployed TAs will certainly bugger up the government's unemployment targets, or haven't they thought about that?

Willsmum79 · 04/06/2013 21:22

5 pages of comments - not read them all but in my school of 13 classes, we have a TA in every class (mine has 1 plus a TA half day) AND we're advertising for two more!!!
no wonder there is no money for educational visits and resources

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