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Teacher...a bit like Jordan...but worse

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Jinx1906 · 31/05/2013 16:00

Was hoping to get some advice here.

My dd is currently in year 4 and has been very lucky to have had a very nice teacher who has made good progress with her. From speaking to some of the other mums it seems that all are very happy with her.

On the friday before half terms DD had a letter in her schoolbag saying that DD's current teacher would look after the kids 2 days per week and that another teacher who has now returned from leave will be taking over the class 3 days per week. The trouble is that not only are we unhappy with the school's decision to replace a very popular teacher for the last half term of the year but that she is being replaced by someone who is not at all popular, appart from with some of the dads perhaps. My older daughter also had her in year 6, which was a complete waste of time. She was not able to maintain discipline in her class and was often rude or on the mobile chatting in front of her class.

I know that the school is not going to take our concerns on board. Some partents have already written to the school to voice their concerns but have not received any replies so far. I would very much like to do the same but is it reasonable to complain about a teacher putting a lot of cleaving on display, wear see through blouses and mini skirts whilst at work which is my main concern at this stage. The current teacher told me that the school reports are currently being put together and that all testing has now been done, so in terms of academic stuff I'm not that concerned. Not much happens in most schools during the last few weeks in any event.

Any advice very much appreciated.

Thank you mummies.

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Jinx1906 · 31/05/2013 19:34

No, I did not complain about the way she dressed in writing, only about DD1 lack of progress, however I did mention it to the head verbally. I guess that there is no record of this, a new head has meantime come in.

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TheSecondComing · 31/05/2013 19:36

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saintmerryweather · 31/05/2013 19:39

i dont think you are missing the point TSC a pvc miniskirt can be a serious issue if you dont have the legs for it

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pinkyredrose · 31/05/2013 19:44

OP how do you know what she wears every day? Do you go into school to check?

Knickers and bra on display? Really?

Blueandwhitelover · 31/05/2013 19:45

Is this the plot of some film or book that we're supposed to recognise?

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Jinx1906 · 31/05/2013 19:57

We see her at the end of the school day when the children are dismissed. The tops are always extreemly low cut or totally see through. To be fair only saw the kickers once when she picked something up. Me and all the parents and kids in the playground.

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Marlinspike · 31/05/2013 19:59

Grin Arisbottle!

Arisbottle · 31/05/2013 20:08

I slipped on duty last half term and the kids saw my knickers . I am waiting my P45.

One of our NQTs has a see through blouse that she wears a cami top underneath, I was admiring it.

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Jinx1906 · 31/05/2013 20:11

Cami top underneath would be great, all for it.

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pinkyredrose · 31/05/2013 20:32

OP you need to wind your neck in. You and the other complainers would be best off teaching your kids about inappropriate gossip. I can see where they get it from.

Mrsrobertduvall · 31/05/2013 20:42

From previous threads you are not enamoured with state education.
Hopefully you will fare better in the private sector, where all teachers wear ankle length skirts and Mrs Thatcher blouses.

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Jinx1906 · 31/05/2013 21:50

Not at all, my DD1 is at the local grammar school, can't fault it. It is excellent, I wish all children could enjoy this type if education. But that had nothing to do with the fact that I do wish my children to be taught by a teacher who dresses in an inappropriate manner and isn't great at teaching either.

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JakeBullet · 31/05/2013 22:03

You need to reread the end of your last post.jinx

Made me giggle.

NancyOsbourne · 31/05/2013 22:06

You complained about a teacher who taught your daughter in year 6 badly? even though you DD still got into the grammar school. Hmm...

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Jinx1906 · 31/05/2013 22:29

Yes, she did get in to grammar. The test was done 2 weeks in to year 6 which was nothing but a waste if time. So really year 6 had nothing to do with getting in to grammar.

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puppy08 · 31/05/2013 22:51

Still here? I think you'll have gathered by now that you won't be getting tut tutting and sympathetic nods of disapproval.

Teachers, as with all professions come in all shapes and sizes. I'll bet many of the children's attitudes towards said teacher comes from seeing you chattering/gossiping/oggling at drop off/pick up time.

Complain if you really must but all HTs have a staff handbook and procedures in place for staff conduct so I can't see the point. Sometimes Y6 pupils are prone to exaggeration and fueled by chattering parents who have nothing better to worry about....well...nuff said.

BeQuicksieorBeDead · 01/06/2013 01:28

If they actually said that about not needing to make progress in year six I will eat that pvc mini skirt myself. No one in any primary school would have said that, let alone an outstanding one. To get outstanding you need to show good or better teaching in all classes, better than expected progress in all years. Schools can have subject inspections at any time, even a week after an outstanding judgement.

ravenAK · 01/06/2013 01:45

Assuming this is real, then you need to keep an eye on your dd's progress when 'new' teacher takes over.

Her appearance is not your concern. Most schools do have a dress code which usually states something vague like 'professional dress' - colleagues of mine have been pulled up for too short skirts, not wearing a tie, & flip flops (when teaching Science or DT). However, it's for the HT to have a word; parents don't get to dictate what the staff wear, anymore than I get to tell my GP what I think of his appalling tweed jacket'n'converse combo.

As for the use of her phone - yes, by all means complain about this if it happens. I do use mine to check the time, but would never take a call in the classroom. Again, there will probably be a policy about it. If not, it's presumably never been an issue at the school before - so flag it up & get the school to make it part of the staff handbook.

But tbh, an awful lot of your post is hearsay & bitchery. You really do need to confine yourself to actual behaviour by the teacher - from now, not two years ago - that is unprofessional & impacting on your dd - & you need to complain in writing to the HT, not chunter about it over half term with your playground cronies.

mrssprout · 01/06/2013 03:02

My DD had a teacher a couple of years ago who always wore low cut tops & everything tight & short . She had really long false nails & big, bleached hair........& she was a brilliant teacher ! I would be more worried about teaching ability than fashion choices
My DD did comment on her clothes a couple of times saying they were very short or you could see lots of boob. I just told her that everyone has a choice as to how they like to dress, mrs x liked the clothes she wore & when DD was a grownup she would choose the clothes that she liked to wear.

OrangeFootedScrubfowl · 01/06/2013 03:18

Kind of related to this.
My friend is a teacher. She has giant boobs on a tiny frame which she has always had issues with. She always dresses to minimise and hide them, for as long as I've known her. She would never show any cleavage on a night out, never mind at work.
Her head asked her at appraisal to cover them up a bit more, but short of a mumu there is nothing she can wear that would hide her shape any more than she does.
She said to him she honestly never shows anything and he went 'Yes but... They're just so big I suppose you can't help your eyes being drawn to them, and some parents have commented'.
Why do people feel they have the right to comment? Breasts don't define a woman. It makes me cross.

ravenAK · 01/06/2013 03:47

Bloody hell. I think in her shoes (or bra!) I would've been cross all the way to making a fairly stringent complaint about my HT. Totally unacceptable & inappropriate conversation for him to have with a member of his teaching staff.

englishteacher78 · 01/06/2013 06:50

Wow! Parents complained because she had big breasts! Ridiculous.

learnandsay · 01/06/2013 06:54

Ask the head to move her into sex education.

mrz · 01/06/2013 06:59

She shouldn't be making or taking phone calls in class but other than that you have no grounds to complain.