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DCs starting a new school after half term...what do I take? Should I mention G&T?

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FishfingersAreOK · 30/05/2013 22:42

Due to a move my DC (YR & Y2) are starting at a new primary school on Monday. When we left their old school on Friday I was given all of their work/folders/old reading records etc.

Not so worried about YR stuff but should I take Y2 literacy/numeracy/handwriting stuff in with us for the first day for the new school. Or would that look...er....I don't know...unnecessary? Would it be useful or just a pain?

Also, Y2 is on the Gifted and Talented register for her reading. Not sure how this has actually benefitted her tbh. She doesn't know she is on the register. We are not that bothered in many ways. We were happy she was being stretched at her old school - and she was happy and thriving. So again, is there any need to mention it? The new school is bigger, and one of the appeals of it is there will be more peers for DD (Y2) of a similar academic ability - rather than her being pulled into Y3/Y4 classes. If I don't mention it will it seem odd? If I do will I seem pushy? Does the G&T transfer to a new school IYSWIM or will it just be dependent on the others in her year.

These are probably all questions I should have asked the school(s) last week but we only found out they had places on Thursday and everyone agreed beginning of the half term was the sensible time to start....but has left me with very little time to get my head around it!

Not sure if posting in correct area....Oh....blasted half term

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bobthebear · 02/06/2013 23:56

L&S said her DD is reading Fantastic Mr Fox, she didn't say she understood it!

learnandsay · 02/06/2013 23:57

What would you like to ask her about it?

bobthebear · 02/06/2013 23:57

Blue is a 1c/1b. y1 are expected to end on a 1b

bobthebear · 02/06/2013 23:59

Why, what have you asked her? Not really up to me to test her comprehension!

simpson · 03/06/2013 00:00

Exactly bob it does not bother me because they know she is able (the school) so it does not really matter...

But if she was given blue books I would be pissed off not happy...

TBH with DD I have stopped pushing her to read harder books (not that I was massively before) but I would prefer her to read something slightly too easy but I push her on the comprehension type of questions I ask ( and she really seems to enjoy it) so yes she is reading books she could have read 4or 5 months ago I but doubt she would have been able to answer all in inference type of questions then.

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 00:00

You're the one questioning it.

simpson · 03/06/2013 00:00

Ah ok, our school expect a 1A at end of yr1 (in reading only).

bobthebear · 03/06/2013 00:03

And what would be the point of me telling you what questions to ask her? just for you to say 'oh she can answer those questions easily

bobthebear · 03/06/2013 00:03

simpson the national average is a 1b at the end of y1

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 00:06

Try it. You brought it up. She has just reached the passage where Mr Fox sees the glinting gun barrel and everything explodes around him. About chapter three, I think.

simpson · 03/06/2013 00:10

Bob - the national average is not a 1B it is the expected level for most schools....

simpson · 03/06/2013 00:10

Ahhh!! The bold did not work

bobthebear · 03/06/2013 00:13

I brought up your child's comprehension? No, you did that when you said she was reading Fantastic Mr Fox with no problems! I really couldn't care any less about her comprehension, was just trying to explain why the teacher might not agree with you

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 00:16

Well, let's let the teacher do her own disagreeing. We'll all be there in the room with the books. You implied that my daughter might not understand Mr Fox. And you were right; she might not.

So, if you want to see whether she does or not then you'll have to ask her. The teacher will get her own chance.

simpson · 03/06/2013 00:19

The thing is with a book like Fantastic Mr Fox or The Twits (which my DD has just finished reading) is that yes they may read it and comprehend it fine at a basic level ( and more) the chances are if they re-read the book in a years time they will get more out of it (due to maturity).

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 00:22

Well, yes, of course. But if you ask a 4yo/just 5yo for an interpretation then you have to be prepared to accept a 4yo/just 5yo answer!

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 16:09

The books still have to be read in scheme order "to fit in with our school system", (as I suspected)

Her reading (which the teacher is really pleased with) only has one drawback, which was not using expression. (Comprehension is good, apparently.) We discussed how hard that is in a book with no real dialogue. "I know the teacher said."

There was no sense of preparing her for next year, just more of the same (though the book colour was changed by one level as we talked.) It's a magic key adventure and the new dialogue is far more reasonable for expression.

So, all in all we're not very far forward. But we've moved a step in the right direction. (It was very amicable, but beyond developing expression,) I'm not sure where it leaves us.

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 16:14

I mentioned that she's reading Fantastic Mr Fox and it didn't seem important.

JellyMould · 03/06/2013 16:22

Sounds pretty positive to me, she's gone up a level. What were you hoping for?

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 16:29

A plan of some kind.

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 16:29

Seems to me like an expedition without a map or a compass.

simpson · 03/06/2013 16:55

Eeek does this mean that this reading "system" continues next year?

learnandsay · 03/06/2013 17:13

It looks that way. Several times the teacher has said to me that my daughter reads really well. I think it's connected to the laid back attitude I've referred to before. I don't think getting to the end of the scheme (ever) is seen as important. She's probably wrong, but my daughter thinks she's the furthest progressed reader. (and I'm pretty sure that's only because I've asked what's going on) She's not the oldest by some margin. There must be a few children in the class who can read the type of books she's getting (and more I wouldn't wonder.) It just doesn't seem to be a worry. There seems to be a "they'll all get there in the end, whenever that is," approach.

simpson · 03/06/2013 19:17

Oh dear

Maybe have a word with the yr1 teacher early on in the year to see what they say. Sounds a bit bonkers to me...

mrz · 03/06/2013 19:41

I confess I put half my Y1 class back two or three bands in Sept

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