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ELGs - how much detail will parents find out at end of year?

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PassTheTwiglets · 24/05/2013 16:53

Will parents find out the score for each individual ELG or get an overall score? I seem to recall hearing that we get told an average but I'd be really interested to see each one...

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wigglywoowoo · 24/05/2013 17:12

I know EYFS has changed this year but we got the individual score for each area last year. But from posts last year this seemed to vary by school and those who didn't get it were told to request it from the school as they should have received it.

mrz · 24/05/2013 17:51

The school has by law to provide a summary of a child's achievement against the ELGs (not scores which are meaningless or averages) in the new EYFS profile children are assessed as emergent, expected or exceeding each of the 17 ELGs

tiredbutnotweary · 24/05/2013 18:44

You may or may not get a score, as schools seem to do things differently, but you can work it out yourself if the school don't provide it.

Each ELG must receive a minimum of 1 point (for emerging), so the lowest score possible is 17 for a child emerging in all ELGs.

Then 2 points are awarded for each ELG at expected and 3 points for each ELG at exceeding. So the maximum score, for a child exceeding all 17 ELGs, is 51.

The pilot showed that the average score was 32 (I think) but only 41% of the children achieved a "good level of development" (GLD), which is gained by a child achieving (so either expected or exceeding):

the early learning goals in the prime areas of learning (personal, social and emotional development; physical development; and communication and language) and;

the early learning goals in the specific areas of mathematics and literacy.

I think the GLD represents 11 of the 17 ELGs, so theoretically a child could achieve the GLD and have a total score of 28 if they were emerging in the 6 other ELGs.

See the pilot report here www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/190639/DFE-RR291.pdf

PassTheTwiglets · 24/05/2013 20:20

Mrs, by 'score, I just meant the 'emergent = 1 point, expected = 2 points' thing.

Tired, thanks for all that info! I'm not sure how you can work out though... I'd be interested to know how DS is doing in each particular goal but an overall score wouldn't tell me which ones he was expected and which ones he'd exceeded, would it?

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PassTheTwiglets · 24/05/2013 20:23

Sorry, I am being dense, I get what you mean now! You mean that if the report says 'emerging/expected/whatever' for each ELG then I can work out the score myself. Sorrry, I get that now :) What I was actually wanting to know though was not his total score but what individual ELGs got what level. I had read somewhere that you get one average classification for all their ELGs, rather than an individual one for each ELG. I suppose if that were to happen I could always ask to see individual results...

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mrz · 24/05/2013 21:00

You may not get a score PTT by law they must provide you with a written summary not a score.

All EYFS providers must give parents a written summary of a child?s attainment against the ELGs.

PassTheTwiglets · 24/05/2013 22:32

A summary will tell me whether he's expected or whatever, yes?

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tiredbutnotweary · 24/05/2013 23:11

Yes, exactly, so 17 ELGs with emerging, expected or exceeding against each one.

And depending on the school you may be told the total score, whether DC achieved a good level of development (as the government defines it) and if they are exceeding any ELG the national curriculum level they have been assessed at. As the last 3 are not statutory requirements then it's up to the school to decide whether to tell you. At least that's my understanding so I stand to be corrected!

freetrait · 24/05/2013 23:15

Last year we got an old fashioned style report at the end of YR. I liked it Grin. Said DS was above average in Maths and that he could read (amongst other things!)

mrz · 25/05/2013 07:32

I would be surprised if schools listed the 17 ELGs and rated them emergent, expected and exceeding it's much more likely you will have a written account of what your child can do in each area of the EYFS.

PassTheTwiglets · 25/05/2013 08:34

mrz, would you be annoyed if a parent asked you to provide them with the ratings?

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mrz · 25/05/2013 08:56

Not at all

PassTheTwiglets · 25/05/2013 10:09

Cool, thanks :) I'm always so wary of asking teachers to do anything more than absolutely necessary, knowing how busy they are already.

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MushroomSoup · 25/05/2013 23:47

I'm a primary head. Our report will indeed have the 17 areas with a tick beside each in the Em/Exp/Exc columns.

mrz · 26/05/2013 08:15

Wasn't the DfE advice not to turn them into tick lists MushroomSoup?

infin · 26/05/2013 12:25

Our reports for reception EYFS will have a written section for each of the 8 'overall' areas plus a section for Characteristics of Learning along with the average/best fit for each area. So for example, if they were at the expected level for 2 of the three strands of Understanding the World they would be given expected, emerging if they had reached the expected level in only one of the 3 strands. The text would explain the detail with areas for development to move from emerging to expected.
Just read what I've written and it sounds as clear as mud!!!

RobotBananas · 08/07/2013 23:42

Thanks for this thread, its made it all much clearer. We've just had the list of ELGs with Em/Exp/Exc next to them.

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