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So my son walked out of school today..

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MzPixielated · 26/04/2013 17:20

He's in year one! Normal morning, he lined up and went in with his class. Luckily I had stopped just down the road because I'd got chatting to some other mums. He walked out of his class, out of the school, out of the gates and no one batted an eyelid. I had asked him that morning to bring me his p.e. kit as it needed washing and he'd taken it literally and brought it straight to me (although I meant at the end of school iykwim). I took him back in and the teacher started shouting at him, surely its her job to make sure he doesn't wander off once the bell has gone?

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CouthySaysEatChoccyEggs · 09/05/2013 07:49

I can still be outside the school after 30 minutes, having been chatting...Blush

Floggingmolly · 09/05/2013 07:55

But op says he misunderstood and thought she meant do it right now. Did he seriously sit down in class, answer to the register, and then suddenly (30 minutes later) grab his gym kit and walk out? Seems unlikely.

MzPixielated · 09/05/2013 20:01

It had been 30 mins as I have a clock on my buggy and I checked the time because I needed to go to town. When I took ds back in all the kids where still running about getting ready for the day and his teacher made a point of telling him the register hadn't been taken and how dangerous it was because in her own words she wouldn't have known he had gone. You don't have to believe me a obviously, the incident was a while ago now and things have been put in place to stop it happening again so as far as I'm concerned the issue has been resolved.

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BabiesAreLikeBuses · 09/05/2013 22:37

I'm surprised so many think that at y1 it's the child's fault!! Our registers are done within 5 mins and calls made by 930 for absence as prev poster said. What worries me most is the head's reaction, your child is clearly fine but they should have followed it up. My ds escaped last term aged 4.10 he was meant to go to wraparound but was released to playground at 330. When he didn't see me he found my friend who took him back in. A TA shouted at him and he said at the time it was all his fault... But the school logged the incident in writing, followed up with staff inc ticking off for the shouter, re posted instructions re dismissal to all staff then reported back to me. Which means i'm not worried as i feel they dealt with it. School is busy at start of day but staff's top responsibility is safety of all

TTT824 · 11/02/2022 22:34

I know this was years ago - but what was the outcome?
My 4 (nearly 5year old) reception child went into school, dropped off book bag then left again - when I asked she couldn’t say why she left - but she’s 4 years old!!!
The chair of governors made it sound like the child was the issue (even the teacher said she is a “switched on child she didn’t think she needed to worry about”) and the head didn’t want to implement anything as it’s the first time it has happened.
So basically they have said it hasn’t happened before so its not an issue.
I don’t know what to do now as the teachers don’t watch the door at drop off times and are not aware of children entering (or leaving).
Luckily she was found by “a kind grandma” in the playground who brought her back, but all the gates were open as it was drop off time and she could have easily got out or the grandma could have been someone who is not kind.
The teachers are actively encouraged to work at their laptops checking emails etc in the morning rather than interacting with the kids, and the TA doesn’t start until class starts, so the head thinks it’s unrealistic to have someone on the door ensuring the children can’t leave.
I have since dropped her off and had to wait about 5 minutes for the teacher to notice me stood at the door - at which point she got up and began interacting with the children rather than looking at laptop.

Comedycook · 11/02/2022 22:37

That's awful. At my DC's school there are members of staff standing at every gate in the morning until they are closed so this couldn't happen

Comedycook · 11/02/2022 22:38

Oh, zombie thread!

TTT824 · 11/02/2022 22:59

comedycook
What is a zombie thread?

TTT824 · 11/02/2022 23:00

@Comedycook

That's awful. At my DC's school there are members of staff standing at every gate in the morning until they are closed so this couldn't happen
I was told this wasn’t possible as they didn’t have the staff….
Babyvenusplant · 11/02/2022 23:07

@ryanboy

If he is in Y1 ,your DS is 6 (or very nearly 6).He is not a very young child.He should be plenty old enough to be trusted not to wander off.schools should not be prisons I think you should stop casting round for someone else to blame
And what if a child was being groomed by someone and being told to leave school to meet them?
lanthanum · 12/02/2022 16:46

@TTT824

I know this was years ago - but what was the outcome? My 4 (nearly 5year old) reception child went into school, dropped off book bag then left again - when I asked she couldn’t say why she left - but she’s 4 years old!!! The chair of governors made it sound like the child was the issue (even the teacher said she is a “switched on child she didn’t think she needed to worry about”) and the head didn’t want to implement anything as it’s the first time it has happened. So basically they have said it hasn’t happened before so its not an issue. I don’t know what to do now as the teachers don’t watch the door at drop off times and are not aware of children entering (or leaving). Luckily she was found by “a kind grandma” in the playground who brought her back, but all the gates were open as it was drop off time and she could have easily got out or the grandma could have been someone who is not kind. The teachers are actively encouraged to work at their laptops checking emails etc in the morning rather than interacting with the kids, and the TA doesn’t start until class starts, so the head thinks it’s unrealistic to have someone on the door ensuring the children can’t leave. I have since dropped her off and had to wait about 5 minutes for the teacher to notice me stood at the door - at which point she got up and began interacting with the children rather than looking at laptop.
It may not have happened before, but they're lucky it wasn't more serious this time.

Depending on how they start the school day, and the physical layout, it can be difficult for a class teacher to be sure that nobody has left - if they are milling between cloakroom and classroom, all too easy for someone to go the other way out of a cloakroom. The blame shouldn't be laid on the class teacher alone - there needs to be a backup system.

There should be someone on the school gate until it is locked - that should be the last line of defence. They should be stopping any school-aged child going through the gate (occasionally it will be because mum is taking them to the doctor having dropped siblings, but it should be checked). That only requires one person - if there are multiple gates then lock those before handover time.

No way should the child be held responsible. Sure, older kids should know they don't leave again after arriving, but the adults are responsible for ensuring that. With younger ones, it may seem clear to the most sensible child that if they find the letter/jumper they left at school yesterday, they should go and find mum to hand it over straight away.

There should be someone on the gate at hometime too, to make sure kids haven't got ahead of their parents, or aren't (as I once did) going out to the road to see if they can see mum because she's late.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/02/2022 17:11

@TTT824

comedycook What is a zombie thread?
A zombie thread is one that is old - in this case, nearly 9 years old - but has been brought back to life by someone posting on it.
CM1234123 · 05/03/2023 11:06

I’ve actually have a similar issue the week. My 6yr child (who is awaiting a SN assessment & is a known flight risk) left his classroom, preceded down a corridor and out of the main doors of the school building. He preceded across the school grounds, through the car park and was eventually apprehended a few yards outside of the school grounds by a teacher who happened to be returning to the school. I was informed by the head this happened at 12 pm, the teacher noticed him leave the class and was going to check where he was going, then assumed he was going to the loo so left him to carry on. The school was highly annoyed at me and my son and informed me that would be reporting the indecent to child protection and that “I now will have them breathing down my neck” . This is a school with a high number of special need children in their care, this is not the first time a child has been able to abscond and get out of the school building. The school is on a road that buses along with other traffic frequent use, there is a known problem in the area with attacks on young girls. I am still in shock that this has happened and also the attitude of the school not only blaming my 6 year old child but threatening me with child protection services.
Any advice or help greatly welcome

Mumlou13 · 22/09/2023 15:31

My daughter has also walked out of school today and the school didn't even know until I phoned them, as she had rang me to pick her up. She has autism and is in secondary school. She had walked about 15 mins away from school before she rang me upset and scared. The school still haven't rang me back to discuss this I have been waiting all day, does anyone have the best advice on how I can deal with this as a massive complaint so that they know the seriousness of it because obviously they aren't bothered

Chocoholic900 · 22/09/2023 18:25

That's tricky Mumlou13, as obviously things are different in secondary school. Pretty often gates are open or there are ways in and out open all day, kids could quite easily walk in and out - but typically don't because they know they aren't allowed to.
Not sure what to suggest as if she has autism she could potentially be more at risk or vulnerable - was there an incident that happened before that made her want to leave? Suppose if it was break time school might not be aware until the lessons start up again, so her calling you might have occurred before school were even aware. Or was she missing from a lesson but that wasn't flagged?
Think school need to explain how they are going to prevent this happening again. But likewise addressing the reasons for your DD just walking out.

lanthanum · 23/09/2023 10:33

The line of defence for this one should be at the school gate - a member of staff (at our primary the head/deputy) should be on duty at the gate until it is locked. In the melee of kids hanging up their stuff in the cloakroom and moving into the classroom, a child heading the wrong way could easily be missed, and once walking through the school, other staff would probably assume they were on an errand.

lanthanum · 23/09/2023 18:01

CM1234123 · 05/03/2023 11:06

I’ve actually have a similar issue the week. My 6yr child (who is awaiting a SN assessment & is a known flight risk) left his classroom, preceded down a corridor and out of the main doors of the school building. He preceded across the school grounds, through the car park and was eventually apprehended a few yards outside of the school grounds by a teacher who happened to be returning to the school. I was informed by the head this happened at 12 pm, the teacher noticed him leave the class and was going to check where he was going, then assumed he was going to the loo so left him to carry on. The school was highly annoyed at me and my son and informed me that would be reporting the indecent to child protection and that “I now will have them breathing down my neck” . This is a school with a high number of special need children in their care, this is not the first time a child has been able to abscond and get out of the school building. The school is on a road that buses along with other traffic frequent use, there is a known problem in the area with attacks on young girls. I am still in shock that this has happened and also the attitude of the school not only blaming my 6 year old child but threatening me with child protection services.
Any advice or help greatly welcome

I would have thought that if the school reported this to child protection, it's the school's neck that will be breathed down. This happened on their watch, not yours. Kids should not be able to get out of a primary school, at least not without scaling a sizeable fence or setting off an alarmed emergency exit.

AuroraCake · 24/09/2023 23:32

The child should not have been able to get off schools grounds, as the previous poster said without scaling a wall or fence. If I door was left open then they are negligent. However, exit doors to schools do be left open at times when deliveries are coming in and out but someone should be watching it.

Secondary schools are a different kettle of fish but you really shouldn’t be able to get out of a primary school grounds.

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