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Reading Tests

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MrsGWay · 04/04/2013 14:45

I am trying to decipher what we were told at my daughter's parents evening. Her reading ability had been tested and she is beyond the reading scheme, despite bringing home turquoise level books. She needs to work on her expression (very true) but finds the books terribly boring. In fact she is a reluctant reader.
Apparently in the test she only got 10 words wrong which gave her a score of 30. Does anybody know which test this might be?

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Periwinkle007 · 05/04/2013 22:33

true but it does have sounds which are familiar, fully is a regular ending of a word, ly is a regular ending even without the full. scorn would be odd but some of the alien words are just a bit too odd I think. don't know. We had similar with Prime Minister today.

simpson · 05/04/2013 22:37

But I think a lot of the words in the phonics test will be sounds a child is (hopefully) familiar with.

It is only because the are learning/have learnt that words have meaning iyswim.

simpson · 05/04/2013 22:38

they

Periwinkle007 · 05/04/2013 22:41

yes I see what you mean

I just can't see why such a test is really needed :o)

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MrsGWay · 05/04/2013 22:54

Sorry to go off topic, but it definitely was not the phonics test. However it is interesting to note that the best and fastest reader in my daughter's class is actually in the lowest phonics group.
She now says that she remembers having to read a long book and answering questions at the end of each page.

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simpson · 05/04/2013 23:02

I do agree on why a test is needed....surely if a school is doing their job correctly then it is not needed. However, sadly many schools are not

Mrsg - I would be interested to find out what test it was!!

mrz · 06/04/2013 07:39

I think the fact that the test showed children who their teachers believed were good readers couldn't in fact accurately read very simple words shows the check was needed.

www.nonweiler.demon.co.uk/Y1_Phonics_Check.pdf

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 09:27

Well, there aren't many alien names in everyday reading, so I guess that bit of the test isn't much help.

mrz · 08/04/2013 09:50

Ciff, Yaris, Punto, Baxi, Moshi, Makka Pakka, Ninky Nonk ........

mrz · 08/04/2013 09:58

Tombliboos, Pontipines, Haahoos, Dipsey, Laa Laa, Po Tinky Winky, Abadas, Bobinogs, Dipdap ....

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 09:58

I didn't say peculiar words don't exist. I said they're not part of everyday reading. Most people read things which make sense like stories, newspapers, messages, things of that sort.

mrz · 08/04/2013 09:59

Chedds, Pritt, Teflon, Duracel, Millicano ...

mrz · 08/04/2013 10:01

So you don't read any of those words in the supermarket or on TV or children's magazines and books.

mrz · 08/04/2013 10:02

They read labels and packaging and captions

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 10:11

Maybe they/we do occasionally (not on TV). But I don't want to raise children who are brilliant at reading advertising but can't understand a newspaper article. I'd rather it the other way around.

mrz · 08/04/2013 10:15

It's quite useful to be able to read the label on items you intend to purchase learnandsay

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 10:19

My daughter doesn't seem to have any trouble reading the names of things she wants. I find it harder to get her to read the names of things that she doesn't want.

mrz · 08/04/2013 10:20

I hope she never struggles but unfortunately many adults do

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 10:25

Presumably there's a difference between being able to recognise a brand and product and being able to pronounce it. I buy Polish beer sometimes. I sure can't pronounce it but I can buy the same bottle each time.

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 10:26

I used to buy Polish stock powder too. But since I've moved house I can't find it. I can't pronounce that either but I'd recognise it it I saw it.

carriedawayannie · 08/04/2013 10:28

What happens if they fail? Does it affect the child at all?

cumbrialass · 08/04/2013 10:31

But you can make a phonetically plausible attempt at
Lech, Okokim, Tatra, Tyskie etc. Which is all the children are asked to do.

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 10:31

I guess it depends on the test. If it's the phonics screening check then she'll have to do it again if she's in Y1 now. If this was her second time I don't know what happens. (Perhaps she can't read from now on.)

carriedawayannie · 08/04/2013 10:44

I just did a quick practice test I downloaded onto my phone.

Dd1, in reception, did ok with the made up words and just approached them with the same way she approaches real words she didn't know.

She wanted to know what they meant though which is tricky to explain they are just nonsense. I didn't really say that but felt like it!

This particular test had pictures of aliens, one of which looked like a dragon and she was trying to use this picture to work out the word. I had to tell her to ignore the picture which goes against what she is taught in school so how is that helpful?

learnandsay · 08/04/2013 10:51

Maybe the phonics check should just consist of made up words alone. Then they wouldn't need the alien pictures because some children are being taught not to look at the pictures and you can't teach don't look, don't look

wait, no, look -- whoops

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