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Practice mock SATs KS1

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LifeIsBetterInFlipFlops · 26/03/2013 19:14

Does anyone download practice SATs tests to do at home with a YR2 pupil?

I'm a parent and would be keen to know whether other parents do this and if any teachers reading this think it a good idea?

Thanks in advance.

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MirandaWest · 26/03/2013 19:17

Year 2 SATs are teacher assessed. They will do a test which will be part of the evidence for the level given, but this can be performed at any time. Some schools will do tests in all the school at the same time but not necessarily.

Really there is no point in doing practice SATs tests, IMO

Otherworld · 26/03/2013 19:21

I agree with MirandaWest. It's about the school assessing. Don't revise. Let the school handle it.

baffledmum · 26/03/2013 19:27

Don't revise - utter madness IMO.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 26/03/2013 19:37

I think my ds has been doing mock ones in school. So there's really no need to do them at home, is there?

pointythings · 26/03/2013 21:14

Both my DDs came home talking about the fun activity they had done in school that day when they were in Yr2 - no preparation at all. They did do one or two practice ones to get used to the format, but that was it.

Don't sweat it, you'll have plenty of that at KS2...

bubblesinthebath · 27/03/2013 21:59

The focus will be on the SAT'S at school, let your school do that side and let your Dc chill when he/she gets home.

bubblesinthebath · 27/03/2013 22:01

Didn't read your question properly did I? I didn't and don't know anyone else who has.

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LifeIsBetterInFlipFlops · 28/03/2013 06:08

That's good to hear...thank you everyone.

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amidaiwish · 28/03/2013 19:01

Really?
Everyone in Dd2's yr2 class are busy doing SATS papers... Not me by the way and was unheard of in dd1s class.
I think a lot more people do practice SATS than you think.

ipadquietly · 28/03/2013 19:03

'I think a lot more people do practice SATS than you think.'

Then these children's teachers are not following statutory guidelines in the way they are using the tests.

ouryve · 28/03/2013 19:06

I did practice papers with DS1, but only because he has ASD and hadn't been complying with past attempts to test him because he was overwhelmed by the paper - I'd often ended up giving him school tests to do at home were he was less stressed by them.

Having a go at a couple of papers at home is good for bolstering confidence in a child who is nervous, but there's definitely no need to revise. There's not really anything you can revise for, anyhow, as they're pretty broad.

amidaiwish · 28/03/2013 20:29

What do you mean ipadquietly?
The teacher hasn't given out the papers.

mrz · 28/03/2013 20:34

The tests are only there to support the teacher's assessment of the child's day to day work and it is the teacher's assessment level that is reported not the test levels.
The tests can be given at any point in the year and some schools will have already completed the tests early in the year ...

ipadquietly · 28/03/2013 20:39

SATs tests are supposed to be used as assessment tools, to support the teacher's assessments of the children. As such, they should not be regarded as 'important tests', and certainly don't need to be practised.

SATs have been used like this (as support for teachers' assessments) for about 7 or 8 years. Teacher assessment levels are reported at the end of the year, not test results.

These are quotes from the KS1 Reporting and Assessment 2013 booklet, which all Y2 teachers are obliged to read and follow:

'If teacher assessment and task and test results differ, the teacher assessment results should
be reported, provided the judgement is based on an appropriate range of evidence from
work completed in class.'

And even MORE importantly:
'Teachers can use the tasks and tests to inform their assessment judgements at any time
during the year, but children are not to be tested more than once during the year in each
subject or attainment target.'

I'd be getting myself up that school as fast as a rat up a drain-pipe! It's totally unnecessary to stress-out these little children like we used to in the past.

The whole booklet can be downloaded - just google 'KS1 reporting and assessment arrangements 2013'.

At my school, we have already done the SATs tests to use as our mid-year assessment and to help identify weak areas.

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LifeIsBetterInFlipFlops · 29/03/2013 05:25

As it happens, DS came home with a mock paper yesterday.

I was given his current achievement level a couple of weeks ago and also told what his predicted would be in July. Would these be assessed through sitting SATs papers or are there other ways?

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mrz · 29/03/2013 07:01

It will be assessed by the teacher on the work he produces day by day in class not by sitting a test.

mrz · 29/03/2013 07:06

"Teacher assessment is the main focus for end of Key Stage 1 assessment and reporting and
is carried out as part of teaching and learning.
4.1 Use of tasks and tests
The statutory National Curriculum tasks and tests must be administered to all eligible children who are working at level 1 or above in reading, writing and mathematics. Tasks and tests are designed to help inform the final teacher assessment judgement reported for each child at the end of Key Stage 1.

If teacher assessment and task and test results differ, the teacher ssessment results should be reported, provided the judgement is based on an appropriate range of evidence from work completed in class.
Schools are not obliged to report task or test results separately. However, parents must be allowed access to their child?s results on request."

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LifeIsBetterInFlipFlops · 29/03/2013 07:13

Thank you mrz

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amidaiwish · 29/03/2013 08:34

I hear what you're saying but it is NOT the school suggesting parents do practice tests or stressing out the kids. it is the parents!!! The teachers have said there is no need to do any practice at all BUT I am pretty much the only parent I know who isn't (and people probably think I am just denying it). That's my point.

BooksandaCuppa · 29/03/2013 08:44

I got your point. If there are materials to buy - and there are - some parents will not be stopped from buying and using them. Nothing the teachers can do to say would probably deter these parents.

ipadquietly · 29/03/2013 12:33

I managed to stop them - by telling them that we'd already done the tests!

BooksandaCuppa · 29/03/2013 16:16

plainjayne123 · 29/03/2013 18:05

I did 3 level 3 maths papers with my dd (she loved doing it). She got 13/30 first time, then 21/30 and then 27/30. A bit of practice and some helpful advice from myself, as well spending a bit of time going over the areas she struggled with helped lots. The teacher will not have time to spend so much attention on 1 child. I think I have boosted her confidence and helped a lot. So definitely worth it.

mrz · 29/03/2013 18:10

[buhmm]

Feenie · 29/03/2013 18:13

Brilliant - so you have boosted her in a very narrow snapshot of the curriculum. Won't help the rest of her teacher assessment in Maths, since the test is a very small part.

If you want to help, why not ask her teacher what you could do at home which would help her with Maths in general? Much more useful.

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