Managed Move Protocol as way of getting past In Year Admission. Any stories?

[Snowme]

My daughter has a poor late record (she's not the only one). The head and I don't get along after she threatened me with a welfare officer because she considered the lateness Neglect. We had to move to a nearby town but no Year 1 places available so I have to rely on family to drive my daughter to school each day in the old location.

Unbeknownst to me when I moved here, the nearest school is the most sought after in this town, people from surrounding villages even commute their children to it. So whilst my daughter's been on the waiting list (currently at 4) since September last year, I'm not hopeful at all. She's due to start junior school anyway (I think) either this coming September or next September.

Her younger brother has just applied for Reception at this new school so if he gets a place her admission criteria will be higher, along with distance as we live one street away. But even so, not hopeful.

So having researched all other avenues, because her current old school is so figures-obsessed and the head would love to get shot of this problem as she views my daughter, I wonder if applying for a place regardless of the capped 30 limit under a Managed Move Protocol might be successful? Given that her education is being compromised by the difficulty in getting her to school in the old village, etc.

I hope someone has some experience of a MMP for in year admission and can share their story.

Sorry but isn't a MMP for a child who would otherwise be excluded? Looking at the wording of Dorset's MMP, which I found on the internet, "The protocol also seeks to have in place a mechanism to ensure that receiving schools do not admit a disproportionate number of pupils." so if the receiving school doesn't have space for your DD, you can't use a MMP.

I'm sorry, but the fact that other children have a poor late record is irrelevant, as is the fact that you rely on family to drive your daughter to school. Your DD's school feel that you are neglecting her because you don't get her to school on time. That doesn't make your DD a "problem", any problem would seem to lie with you.

If there are no spaces for your DD at your preferred school, don't attempt to go down the route of a MMP, presuming that you can't prove she's about to be expelled, and buckle down to find a means of getting your DD to her current school on time. Asking family to drive isn't working - can they drive earlier or do you need to consider another means of getting her to school. How far are you away now from your DD's existing school?

When is she going into year 3 - how come you're not sure? When she does class sizes can go over 30.

What year is your daughter in currently? If she is moving to junior school this Sept how come you have not already applied for her place? Why don't you know when she should move?

Agree that MMP is not designed to cover this kind of lateness. Lots of people have issues with transportation to school, dodgy bus routes, etc. It really is our responsibility to get your dd to school on time. If your family are constantly getting her there late is there really no alternative means of transportation? Or do your family understand the importance of getting her there on time? How late is late - a minute or two or half an hour?

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I think I remember a very long and heated thread about your DD's lateness and I am sure you mentioned in there that your DD was offered a place in a school near your new house which you rejected. If that is the case you have as Tiggy stated no right to demand they find another place

Apologies if I mixed you up with someone else.

Ah, it must be the Fair Access Protocol I meant. Easy to confuse the two titles :)

In this area, some school's year groups are merged, so that Reception and Year 1 are together, or Years 1 and 2 and 2 and 3, etc.

My nephew is just 7 but is moving to junior school this September (which is in the same grounds as the infant school). Whereas children in the new town we've moved to are not moving up until next year. That's why I'm confused. If she stays at the old school she will startJuniors this year. If she is then offered an in year transfer, where does she go, back to infant school or onto a different junior school.

The classes might be merged, but the year groups themselves won't be - either she's in the current year 1 group or year 2 group. In which case she'll go into either year 2 or year 3 in September. Year 2 is still infants, year 3 is juniors.

No, the Years are merged.

snowme - it is a joint class of year 2 and year 3 children. But within the class the children are either part of the Y2 group or the Y3. thye might mix up for everything, but they are actually 2 groups mixed. Your dd is either Y2 age or Y3 age, you can't change that just by putting the 2 classes in one room.

To all intents and purposes they are one class. BUT if you dd goes to another school, she joins the class of her age. You cannot change her age and you cannot change which group she is in.

If her birthday is between sept 2003 and aug 2004 she is in year 2. So she will start juniors in year 3 in sept. She may be in a mixed class, but she will be classified as Year 3.

This matters because legally school cannot go over 30 in years R-2, but they can go over 30 in years 3-6

You cannot "get past" in year admission if you have refused another place. Sorry if I have mistaken you but I thought you spoke of this in another thread and said you had turned down a school about a mile away because another one was closer??

Again I apologise if this isn't you

steppemum if she was born in April 2007 and is currently Year 1 I also presume she wont go up until next year.

Her cousin at same school was born January 2006 and moves up this September.

Yet in the new town 6 year olds go up this year!

No, Sommink.

But it is entirely possible for 6 year olds to move to Junior school this year if they will turn seven between now and end of August (I am assuming you are not in Scotland or NI?) What is relevant is what class those 6 year olds are in now? They may be in a mixed class but are they in the year 1 or year 2 part?

Your daughter will turn 6 in April and move into year 2 in September. Therefore she herself will be 6 for most of year 2 and turn 7 in the April before she moves to Junior school. If you are looking at mixed classes, so a mix of Yr 1 and 2, there will be a mix of ages as well so it is confusing that right now some 6 year olds will be moving up while others will be staying put in Infant school. It matters when they turned 6 and when they will turn 7.

Thankyou, annh