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Any teachers/ SENcos / admin staff out there please?

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NaughtierStep · 06/03/2013 20:12

Hello,

I have a problem and I would really appreciate some feedback from school teachers / SENcos and admin staff who must have had similar requests before.

My DD, 4, is in Reception. At her school, when the children go into Year 1, they always completely mix the classes up. So she will be with about a third of her reception class mates, and two thirds new. And then it stays like that until age 11.

I am desperate to avoid another Mother though, (for good reason, please read on, I am not being precious) and therefore am desperate to avoid her DS and my DD being in the same class from Year 1 to Year 6.

I hope that by telling you a little of the reason why, you can help me to decide WHO to approach at the school about this, and what to say / the reasons I should give. And also whether I might be taken seriously, or dismissed as a precious parent?

The Background: Long, but don't want to drip-feed.

My DD was born with a congenital defect; affects lots of things, eg she has had major heart surgery twice but it's not corrected fully and she is therefore small and tires easily. Also hearing issues, global developmental delay, mild scoliosis, behavioural issues, poor fine and gross motor skills; the list goes on.

I met 'Alice' and her best mate 'Claire' 3 years ago through friends of friends. They said a lot of spiteful things about other people and constantly gossiped, made nasty comments etc. I didn't like this and so distanced myself, but we had a lot of joint friends and the local Mum's community is quite small. And no-one wanted to be the next victim, so no-one ever told them to stop, if you know what I mean?

Meanwhile, I applied and received a Statement of SEN. Full-time LSA help with a place at the local state school. The sht hit the fan when Alice and Claire realised that my DD, as a Statemented Child, had gone to the top of the list for this, their* top-choice school. They were very unpleasant about it, saying to everyone that I was "making it up, nothing wrong with DD, was only doing it to ensure I got into the school" etc.

It then got very nasty towards me when Alice's DD got in, but Claire's DS did not. They were number 1 in the waiting list but it did not move and her DS had to go to another school. She accused my DD of "stealing" her DS's place.

They reported me to the school for making it up. (to get the Statement, DD had loads of medical assessments done. But apparently she does not 'look' disabled to Claire or Alice.)

They reported me to Social Services (for 'Failure to Thrive').

And then there was all the nasty gossip they sent round.

The effect on me was pretty bad. I had been suffering from depression anyway, and this really sent me down a bad path. My anti-depressent mediaction was tripled by the doctor, I stopped going out in case I bumped into Alice or Claire, and I avoided seeing joint friends because I was terrified that they believed the gossip. I felt isolated and bullied.

I now manage to avoid Alice in the (large) school playground because her child and mine are in different classes. And I have made school-mum friends. And DD is happy and thriving with Statement and LSA likely to continue for several years.

But I am terrified that when the classes are mixed for Year One, Alice's child and mine will end up in the same class.And that will mean six years of feeling like this. Please please don't tell me to rise above it. I just don't have the mental strength or self-esteem to do that. I am shaking now, just typing this out; that's what an effect it has on me. I have only told you some of what went on. I love the school and desperately don't want to leave, and DD loves it too.

But how can I ask for the two children not to be put in the same class when they are mixed up? Who do I approach? And how? I fear that the staff will have seen this sort of request before and will dismiss me as being precious. But they can't see what effect it has on me.

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Coconutty · 06/03/2013 20:14

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mummytime · 06/03/2013 20:25

Request an appointment and talk to the Head. Mine is very open to requests for reasonable reasons, and yours isn't even the normal "Johnny would do so much better with Mrs X rather than Miss Y".

libertyflip · 06/03/2013 20:30

Please ask for an appointment asap and get the ball rolling, it is distressing you and I am certain that it could so easily be sorted. At my school, we place children in different classes for far far less reason.

Shame on them, what a disgusting way to behave.

MorphandChas · 06/03/2013 20:38

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Letticetheslug · 06/03/2013 20:39

what dreadful people!

Statements are incredibly hard to obtain and there is no way you could 'make it up' Does your school have a FLO? it might be worth talking to her first ( FLO's are invariably 'she'!)

If not, if you have a sympathetic head, go and see them and tell them exactly what you have said here..

good luck.

NaughtierStep · 06/03/2013 20:46

I am scared about meeting the head about this. What if I cry? (likely). What if he thinks I am just being precious?

Lettice What is a FLO please? We have a SENco who I have a good relationship with. But would she have any sway over the lists?

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shellyf · 06/03/2013 20:47

I am a HT and would be happy to sort this out at my school.

NaughtierStep · 06/03/2013 20:47

Also, do you think he will call in the other Mother concerned to discuss it with her? Because that will make the situation a lot worse.

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weegiemum · 06/03/2013 20:48

Talk to the head now, before classes are made up. I tried to get dd1s class changed for P7 but it was "too late". In retrospect her class was good, but I really felt I wasn't listened to.

PandaNot · 06/03/2013 21:06

You would not be the first parent to cry in the head teachers office so please don't worry about that. However the SENCO would be able to pass it all on to the head if you feel easier talking to the SENCO.

mummytime · 06/03/2013 21:25

I cried all over the Deputy head at my DCs primary when my DD had a melt down when she arrived in school in school uniform, when it was "wear something green day". She was wearing Uniform because she refused to wear the Green dress, because she didn't believe me it was a special day.

The Deputy head was wonderful; most heads/deputies have a box of tissues in their office for parents.

I don't see any reason a Head would discuss it with anyone outside the school, it would be a breach of confidentiality.

steppemum · 06/03/2013 22:06

Don't worry about crying, it happens and the HT will have seen it before.

if you feel the SENCO is more approachable, then you could try approaching her, but I would have to be sure that she would follow through, otherwise I would see head.

If it helps write it down as you have in the op.

Fuzzymum1 · 06/03/2013 22:20

The headteacher at our school would definitely listen to your concerns. It?s not something trivial by any means and they would as a school want to avoid that kind of conflict for you, your daughter and themselves. I would speak to the headteacher but if you have a better relationship with the SENCo then maybe ask if you could meet with the head and SENCo together? I would do it soon too as class arrangements are usually sorted soon after easter.

QuickLookBusy · 06/03/2013 22:26

No the HT shouldn't phone the other mother to discuss it.

I think you will be fine, you say these women reported you to the school and social services, maliciously. That is very serious, the HT will know about the report by them to his school and I would imagine he would be very willing to help you.

auntpetunia · 06/03/2013 22:30

If you know the senco well then meetings with her and head arranged ASAP, if you cry it won't be a problem.

I doubt they'd get the other mum in as it all happened long before school was involved. You need to talk now before Easter .

neolara · 06/03/2013 22:31

Go and talk to the head. He'll be the best person to deal with this. Head teachers are used to parents crying on them. After all, people often only go and see them when they are at the end of their tether.

(If it's any comfort, I used to work as an educational psychologist, and head teachers used to cry fairly often while talking to me! We all get overcome by emotions sometimes.)

Letticetheslug · 06/03/2013 22:33

sorry, FLO = Family Liaison Officer

nalubeadsgirl · 06/03/2013 22:34

Talk to the HT. Print off your OP if it helps. Let him/her read it.

Then unlikely you will cry as you won't have to actually retell the story.

I'm sure the head will accommodate you. I know I would.

MammaMedusa · 06/03/2013 22:40

I broke down in tears when I spoke to DS's (half my age) teacher last year. It was embarrassing but I had a message he needed to hear. I think if you cry, you cry. Your message is important and you deserve to have it heard. Good luck.

MammaMedusa · 06/03/2013 22:41

Oh yes, what nalubead said too, type up a message. I was so pleased I had as when I became overcome, I at least had something I could leave with his teacher.

MrsSham · 06/03/2013 22:45

Talk to HT they would definetly sort this out at my dds school, I fact they have for far less reasons. The school I'm currently working in would also sort this out.

mumblecrumble · 06/03/2013 22:49

I'm a teacher and its no problem when parents cry. The real problem is not knowing what issues are out there...

Also... i cried in front of my DD's head already adn they know its out of frustration etc. Maybe write down your thoughts?

So sorry you are in this crappy situation - these people sound dreadful.

mousebacon · 06/03/2013 22:50

Another vote for the HT here. Just tell him/her what you've told us. I can't see a problem with your request.

Startail · 06/03/2013 22:56

Yes talk to the HT take your a print out of your OP. If you can't face speaking to the HT in person. send your OP in a letter, stick confidential on the envelope, then the HT not the secretary will open it. Likewise put confidential in the title if you email.

Email is how our senior school sorts everything. Primary was tiny you just wandered in and spoke to people.

Do not get stressed and worried, HT are very used to dealing with all sorts of issues about mixing classes, yours is a good reason, many aren't.

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