Headteacher and five staff suspended!

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Have name changed so not to out myself. My children go here :(
I received a letter and that is it. Teachers will not really speak about it to me. What do I do?? Reading the attitudes of the other members of staff "What are teachers supposed to do?" Does not reassure me. Advice? Thoughts? Anyone..

'Once again, I repeat, I know there are some children who genuinely have issues not caused by their parents.'

And I repeat - thanks!

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It doesn't matter if the issues are caused by parents, most are NOT and even if they are they are still 'genuine' and all need support.

I just reported that as spam starlight

' is there some medical reason why there are a disproportionate amount that come from from homes where there are parenting issues'

Disability does not discriminate, unlike some on this thread.
So not all children with disabilities have capable parents, which is made more difficult BY the disability.

So should my sometimes aggressive 9yo be caned, too, learnandsay?

Did caning work for you, because you sound nasty?

If the issues are being caused by the parents then no amount of support in school is going to help.

Actually it can help learnandsay but the ideal solution is support for the parents as well, it needs a multi team approach with outside agencies and not just the school.

Going back to my own childhood, my mother used to get really frustrated at the continual reward for poor behaviour.

I was the youngest of 7 brought up in poverty by my parents who always worked hard and taught us right from wrong. We couln't afford holidays and treats very often - a trip to the park with a sandwich and a drink and maybe a biscuit was the highlight of our summers and I remember going to the beach on the bus once or twice.

The children with "issues" and poor behaviour as we saw it as children would get taken on holidays and trips out all the time - they got taxis to school while we slogged to walk the 2 miles in the snow. She said it was no example to children to keep them behaving properly.

An associate of hers said in later years that she was so lucky that her kids had all turned out well and had good jobs and houses etc and she told them that luck had nothing to do with it.

"low self esteem and low aspirations" (I have taken out attainment)

You know, sometimes I think the opposite is the problem. Children often seem to bursting with self esteem and think very highly of themselves indeed. And as for low aspirations I think they often have really high, unrealistic aspirations. Please don't take this to mean I don't think they should have ambition.

A personal bug bear of mine is the term 'menial job' and peoples unwillingness to do them, thinking that they are beneath them (and by implication so are the people who do them). This I think is born of too much self esteem. I think this unwillingness to start at the bottom has partly led to generations of unemployment. In my mind there is no such thing as a menial job, they are valuable, and the people who do them should be given the utmost respect for what they do.

Low 'self esteem' just seems to be the term brandished around with little thought and with little relationship to the reality.

And some disabilities are far far more than a parent to be expected to cope with alone, but usually are, for as long as possible until the authorities simply can't ignore the child any longer. It is often too late for that child and that family by then.

star - any reason for the aggression?

National news story. All over the place, More than a little unusual. Press will be talking to parents.

It sounds like you had good parents then amck some children aren't that lucky.

Taxis are provided for many reasons such as parents having disabilities themselves etc, two of mine had taxis to school for a few months when I had post natal psychosis after ds4. I am sure some wondered why, I mean I looked perfectly normal as do my children, but mental health issues are very invisible a lot of the time.

kendodd, I am inclined to agree.

I can't imagine that anyone would have kicked the headmaster when I was at school. Has the whole world gone completely mad?

If, as is said, Academies are allowed to remain secretive; then thats worrying.

"The children with "issues" and poor behaviour as we saw it as children would get taken on holidays and trips out all the time - they got taxis to school while we slogged to walk the 2 miles in the snow. She said it was no example to children to keep them behaving properly."

Oh I agree, it seem very unfair, but if it works, then...

"There are many children in mainstream schools with SNs, SEBD are not in the majority."

Many children with special needs have explemorary behaviour. One of the most common groups are children with moderate learning difficulties or children with dyslexia. Many children with autism are well behaved as well.

ADHD is another condition that is poorly understood.

"I do absolutely believe that there are children who genuinely have special needs. However, is there some medical reason why there are a disproportionate amount that come from from homes where there are parenting issues?"

Genetics, pure and simple. Parents with learning difficulties often have children with learning difficulties. A parent with low intelligence will struggle to access help to or the common sense to parent to a high standard.

A lot depends on what your definition of parenting issues is. Someone with major learning difficulits may well try their best to parent their children. The children will not be abused, but might be fed a crap diet, never have their teeth brushed (because parent doesn't brush their teeth), never read to because the parent can't read and have no routine.

There is a difference between abusive and sub optimal parenting.

In the past I have used a time out area within my home for my toddler to calm down. How many of us have done that?

If a child is out of control physically you have very few options as an adult in charge of their care. This boy was referred there for difficult behaviour, surely parents of children in that unit knew about the room, which according to the daily mail must be purpose built as its padded with a viewing window.

False imprisonment - maybe better than several children or staff being hurt

amck5700 then how lucky you and your parents were that none of you had any 'issues'